Hello, current affairs listeners. This is Editor-in-Chief Nathan J. Robinson. We're going to get to the

episode in a moment, but I just wanted to announce beforehand that you might all be interested

in the current affairs writing class that is going to be held on Zoom, Saturday, November 19th. This is an upcoming

fundraiser for current affairs, but it's also a very practical class on how to improve

your writing, how to get it published, and even how to launch independent media projects like current affairs.

I'm going to share with all of you what I have learned and what I wish I knew when I was

a freelance writer and tickets are going to benefit current affairs and independent magazine

with no advertisers or investors that survives entirely through reader support.

I think it's going to be a great class.

You can look on Eventbrite where we're selling tickets and you can see some of the reviews we had the last time we did it.

We hope you'll consider taking it.

Hope to see some of you there.

Thanks very much. I am the editor-in-chief of Current Affairs magazine.

I am here today, first with my colleague,

current affairs managing editor Lily Sanchez.

Hello, Lily.

Hey, everyone.

I am also here today with the writer, poet, schoolteacher, and most importantly, current affairs contributor, Jennifer Dines.

Hello, Jennifer.

Hey, good morning.

We have brought you here today, Jennifer, because you have written in the

print edition of Current Affairs, a fantastic essay that everyone should read. This was in our July,

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