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Hey, everybody. This is Tim Chavez from Faith Matters. We are really excited to share this week's episode with you,

a conversation with scholar and historian Matt Bowman.

Matt is the Howard W. Hunter Chair of Mormon Studies

and an associate professor of religion and history at Claremont Graduate University.

In this conversation, Matt draws on ancient scripture to explore two archetypes that show up again and again, the prophet and the priest.

The prophet, Matt says, is often a voice from the outside, someone who has had a powerful, personal encounter with the divine, and is sent to deliver a message that calls the community to repent.

They challenge, critique, and call us back to our

spiritual roots. The priest, by contrast, usually nurtures from within, building and sustaining

community, preserving memory, and ministering through sacred ritual. The priest creates belonging,

continuity, and connection. And while these approaches may seem to contrast,

they actually work in harmony to support and strengthen

the spiritual life of a community.

Matt notes that beginning in the 1950s,

we began to consistently refer to the president of the church as the prophet.

And he wonders if, in doing so,

we may have come to sometimes undervalue the essential priestly work

that the president of the church also does.

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