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The promise and peril of ketamine

Post Reports

The Washington Post

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4.45.1K Ratings

🗓️ 29 August 2024

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Since the beginning of the pandemic in 2020, there has been a big uptick in the use of the powerful anesthetic ketamine to treat anxiety and depression. But after the death last year of actor Matthew Perry, star of the hit sitcom “Friends,” due in part to the effects of ketamine, doctors and government officials are reconsidering the drug’s widespread availability.

On today’s “Post Reports,” Elahe Izadi speaks with reporter Daniel Gilbert, who has been following the ketamine boom for years. They talk about how ketamine became so widely accessible and about the uncertain future of the drug. 

Today’s show was produced by Peter Bresnan, with help from Emma Talkoff and Ali Bianco. It was edited by Monica Campbell and mixed by Rennie Svirnovskiy. 

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I have had a lifelong struggle with depression and anxiety and had sought many, many

0:10.0

treatments over the years. A variety of... This is Steve McFarland. He's 45, lives in the Chicago area,

0:18.5

and in his battle with depression, he says that nothing worked. I've tried so many different

0:24.8

medication. I am talking dozens of medications over the past 20 years. I've gone

0:29.8

through CBT and DBT and Act and all of that and I wanted something more and came across

0:37.2

Ketamine therapy in 2022.

0:40.3

Cetamine. Cetamine. It's a powerful anesthetic that can also help people with anxiety and

0:48.9

depression. Steve did some research, talked to some friends about it, and decided to give it a try.

0:55.0

He made an appointment with a telehealth company called Mind Bloom,

0:59.0

which first connected us with Steve in 2022.

1:02.0

In an interview this week, Steve remembered

1:05.4

taking the drug for the first time. The first session I had, I had tremendous

1:12.1

insights and began to see some things that got pieced together earlier in my life,

1:20.0

the unhelpful patterns of thinking and action that I had developed and right away it was this is so

1:28.4

transformative but at the same time so intense I have always treated it as as for lack of a better word kind of

1:36.2

sacred because of the power it has given me for the way it's empowered me to overcome a lot of my depression and anxiety.

1:46.1

And Kedimines been around for a while. It was used during the Vietnam War as a battlefield

1:51.7

anesthetic is also a party drug sometimes called Special K.

1:56.6

But its other uses have come into the spotlight more recently.

2:00.1

Tech CEO Elon Musk has talked about having a prescription for ketamine to treat depression.

2:05.5

But the drug is also under scrutiny after the high profile death of Friends actor Matthew Perry.

2:11.4

Perry died

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