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There's now questioning of the social justice movement, even on the center, center-left elites.

Donald Trump rescinded an executive order of President Lyndon Johnson. That's 60 years ago.

Things which were largely unquestioned and unchallenged

for 50, 60 years from the early days of the progressive moment. There's the line that's been drawn.

Yeah. And things are not going to be the same from now on. Hello, I'm Fraser Myers,

deputy editor of Spike's absolutely delighted to be joined by Eric Kaufman.

Fraser, it's great to be here.

Eric, we're speaking at the heterodox social science conference, a conference you organized.

Can you tell us a bit about why you organized it and also give us a bit of a

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