It seems like every single contentious issue in the country just about.

All keeps coming back to one issue and that would be education.

At the center of the education issue for the past 35 years there has been one person.

That would be the former Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos.

Author of brand new book Hostages No More, the Fight for Education Freedom and the Future

of the American Child.

Secretary DeVos, thank you for coming on.

Thanks for having me, Michael.

So, there is this very strange circumstance, which is you've been working on this for

decades.

Education has flown a little bit under the radar.

Conservatives talk about it, Republicans talk about it, it's never been a top tier issue.

And now, beginning, I suppose really last year and accelerating throughout the 2022

year, it seems as though education is at the heart of the election.

You see what happened in Virginia, education flipped that race.

You see Florida, education's played a huge role down there, state by state.

Is this the moment?

It is the moment.

And the last two years have really laid bare for American families across the country,

the failings of 175 year old system, failings that I've seen for many years, many others

have seen and tried to change policy around, but those failings have been laid bare, be

it in extended shutdowns, be it mandates and mass mandates and, you know, in out whatever

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