The Programmable Future ft Iddris Sandu
19 Keys Presents High Level Conversations
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🗓️ 18 August 2025
⏱️ 172 minutes
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Summary
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In this powerful episode of High Lvl Conversations, 19Keys sits down with visionary technologist Idris Sandu to break down the future of culture, AI, and ownership.
As the world becomes programmable, the biggest question is: Who controls the code—and who benefits from it? Idris and 19Keys explore why ownership, intentionality, and sovereignty matter more than ever in the age of artificial intelligence.
🔑 What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
What culture really means and how to measure if it’s thriving or declining.
How AI and programmable systems are shaping society right now.
Why ownership and sovereignty are the keys to true power and wealth.
How confidence, clarity, and intentionality change the game for future builders.
This is more than a conversation—it’s a blueprint for navigating the next era of technology, innovation, and cultural leadership.
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About High Lvl Conversations:
High Lvl Conversations, hosted by 19Keys, brings together some of the most brilliant thinkers, innovators, and leaders of our time. Each episode dives into wealth, technology, spirituality, and culture at the highest level.
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Intro
02:36 - Programming the Future
05:22 - Equivalent Exchange
09:22 - Seeking Potential
11:35 - Disparity of Access to Capital
17:03 - Confidence vs Arrogance
19:55 - Humble Servant Mentality
22:16 - Stop Fearing Information
24:55 - Join the Renaissance
26:30 - Law of Saving Yourself
29:40 - Language and Slavery
32:49 - Cognitive Training
37:18 - Deterrents
44:21 - Importance of Philosophers
46:26 - Intentionality of Renaissance Periods
48:15 - Fear of Black Rulers
51:35 - Why Change is Feared
55:50 - Exporting Human Capital
1:00:44 - Great Reset
1:03:40 - Relationship With Jay-Z
1:05:47 - Jay-Z & Jay Brown
1:08:11 - Jay-Z’s Cultural Impact
1:11:54 - Jay-Z’s Curiosity & Influence
1:17:30 - Importance of Grace
1:18:30 - Jay-Z: "You're In Places I Can't Go"
1:20:20 - Jay-Z's Growth: "Streets is Watching" to "4:44"
1:22:30 - Choose World or Family
1:25:00 - Power of Constructive Criticism
1:27:58 - Criticism from Within Culture
1:29:57 - What Should Be Amplified
1:31:27 - Uncomfortable Conversations
1:34:38 - Importance of Speaking Truth
1:38:30 - Culture’s Selective Hand-Holding
1:41:39 - Kanye West: Crashing Forward
1:42:20 - Why Cancel Culture is Toxic
1:46:58 - Love Comes With Criticism
1:48:46 - Building Strong Networks
1:54:59 - Essence of DJ Khaled
1:57:05 - Has Your Essence Changed?
1:59:42 - Being a Mascot
2:03:18 - Building a School in Ghana
2:05:38 - Influence We Agree With
2:12:40 - Toll of Inauthenticity
2:14:30 - Mental Release of Authenticity
2:17:50 - Cancel Culture
2:20:07 - Universe's Side
2:23:59 - Time vs Cognition
2:28:55 - Onboarding
2:30:48 - Cost of Compute
2:31:57 - Programming the Hammer
2:35:40 - Timbaland’s Thoughts on AI
2:38:35 - Steve Jobs and Streaming Model
2:42:50 - New Generation of Artists
2:46:00 - Outro
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| 1:00.1 | Believe me when I tell you these words, |
| 1:02.6 | nobody's stopping us from doing it. |
| 1:04.5 | Nobody. |
| 1:05.2 | This idea of like, man, I'm just happy to be grateful, |
| 1:08.1 | to be here, fuck all that. |
| 1:09.8 | My relationship with Jay, even the greatest profits that have existed, they're not without fault. The world is now in a deep state of fatigue towards the black experience. Nobody wants to hear that. And their problem is racism. It's not our problem. What the fuck is DEI? I don't even know what that means. When I see a Kanye West with like a Nick Fuente, they like the little slap around kind. Then they get a microphone, all of a sudden they're tough and they want to talk about everything that's wrong with black culture. The machine that amplifies you, turned it back on me because I didn't fit the agenda. Power only respect the power. I don't want to talk to someone that's not free. Then I also have to work with Nipsey and then I have to work with Kanye and then I have to work with Beyonce. I have to become a cultural voice to get access to the same amount of resources. Kids that are unnamed, unknown, get to, you know, raise. You have a billion, you have a billion. billion. All I know is you have a billion you have a billion all I know |
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| 2:05.6 | this and going to meet with a Peter Thiel but then also having to come back meet |
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| 2:14.3 | a return on investment but the idea's gonna be out there Then it becomes this intellectual class who still have their mind. |
| 2:21.3 | And then it becomes this lower class who are controlled by the machine. |
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