Welcome to bewildered. I'm Martha Beck here with Rowan Mangan. At this crazy moment in history,

a lot of people are feeling bewildered, but that actually may be a sign we're on track.

Human culture teaches us to come to consensus, but nature, our own true nature, helps us come

to our senses. Rowan and I believe that the best way to figure it all out is by going through

a wilderness into bewildered. That's why we're here. You know, what I'm seeing out in the world

is a lot of fear and a growing amount of despair. Maybe you're feeling that way too, because the ways

our culture has taught us to navigate the world, to navigate our lives, they are failing us.

We need a new language. We need a new set of tools to find our way individually and as a group.

And I know we can still do this. I put everything I do know about it into wayfinder life coach training

and the tools that I teach there are to help people redefine how we relate to each other,

how we make a living, how we do community. We can only change the world for the better if we redefine

how we think. Registration is open for the fall and the world needs wayfinders now more than ever.

So please go to MarthaBag.com and you'll find your way.

Hi, I'm Martha Beck and I'm Rowan Mangon and this is another episode of BeWildered,

the podcast for people trying to figure it out. And what are you trying to figure out?

Well, I mean so many things as I always feel compelled to point out more than one thing,

so many. So many. Imagine you are only trying to figure one thing out. Oh my goodness.

Can't even imagine it. So something happened to me this week that I'm still working through.

Okay, so I have to backtrack. Many years ago, I had a conversation with my father.

That's horrible. I know. God, can you imagine? You haven't met him, so you can't imagine.

He's delightful. Yeah, of course he is. If a little melancholy from time to time and this conversation

was about Leonard Cohen and Leonard Cohen's music during Leonard Cohen's more depressing decade.

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