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The Problem With...

The Problem With Trying to Feel Better: Dr Julie Smith

The Problem With...

James Smith

Society & Culture

4.99.5K Ratings

🗓️ 31 March 2026

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

Dr Julie Smith joins James Smith for a wide-ranging conversation on the psychology of emotion, mental health, and what it really means to feel better. A clinical psychologist and international bestselling author, Dr Smith dismantles the idea that difficult emotions are problems to be solved and challenges James on everything from catastrophising and shame-based motivation to the surprising emotional cost of success. 👁️ Try Neutonic: https://www.neutonic.com/jamessmith 🧪 Check your Test: https://www.manual.co/smith 📝 Business Mentoring: https://www.jamessmith.business 🏋🏼‍♂️ Online Coaching: https://www.jamessmithacademy.com Dr Julie Smith's YouTube Channel – https://www.youtube.com/@DrJulie Dr Julie Smith On Instagram –https://www.instagram.com/drjulie/ James opens up about his experience of lockdown, being cut off from Australia, the relief (not happiness) of hitting major milestones, and why he uses financial goals as a psychological permission slip to keep overworking. She explains: ◼️ Why wanting to feel better is sometimes part of the problem ◼️ How to recognise when distress is situational vs something deeper ◼️ The double standard we apply to ourselves vs others ◼️ Why self-compassion isn't weakness (it's the harder skill) ◼️ What status loss does to mental health and identity Chapters: 00:00 The Problem With Trying to Feel Better 04:20 When Anxiety Means You're a Good Parent 07:23 Is Low Mood Situational or Something Deeper? 12:10 When Should You Actually Get Therapy? 13:52 James Being Locked Out of Australia 15:36 Not Feeling Like You Qualify for Help 17:34 The Workaholics Trap and Honest Feedback 18:45 Psychedelic-Assisted Therapy — Where Does Dr Smith Stand? 20:23 James's LSD Day in the Park 21:49 The Periodic Table of Emotions 27:12 Vulnerability, Fatherhood and Opening Up 29:08 Redefining Success Beyond the Metrics 32:26 Giving Good Advice You Don't Take Yourself 34:49 Severance and the Work-Life Split 38:07 The Hidden Cost of Living a Very Public Life 41:24 When Followers Tell You You've Saved Their Life 44:28 How a Relationship Changed James's Relationship With Work 45:13 Status, Mental Health and the Fear of Losing It 53:01 The Double Standard We Have for Ourselves 55:42 Using Financial Goals as a Coping Mechanism 57:28 Catastrophising as Motivation 01:00:04 Why Every Goal Feels Empty After You Hit It 01:02:51 Fear of Success vs Fear of Failure 01:08:30 The Journey Is the Point — Not Just the Outcome 01:09:18 Sneak Peek: Dr Smith's New Book 01:10:21 Generational Amnesia and the Young People of Today 01:15:08 Closing Takeaways: What Actually Helps This conversation takes a candid look at the psychology behind overwork, the emotional emptiness that can follow achievement, and the courage required to actually let people in. Dr Smith's clinical perspective on self-compassion, attachment, and the standards we hold ourselves to offers a grounding counterweight to James's trademark candour — and the result is one of the most honest conversations on mental health the podcast has produced. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

A lot of young people who are coming to me for therapy,

0:02.7

whenever they had any kind of normal human distress, they thought that meant something was wrong with them. Fluctuation in your mental health is a normal part of being human. Why is it the set of standards we set for ourselves so different to the ones that we have for other people? Often these people are the most able to be compassionate, but it all goes outwards. But the people who are just highly self-critical.

0:22.3

Every other sentence is something negative about the self.

0:24.9

And what you do is you get people to access the feeling of compassion that they have for

0:29.4

other people.

0:30.4

For example, if it was you, I might say, imagine that you're...

0:32.9

Dr. Julie Smith is a clinical psychologist and international best-selling author.

0:37.1

Her first book, Why Has Nobody Told Me This Before, has sold over 2 million copies. She has over 10 million followers and shares insights from therapy that we can use in our everyday life. What's the problem with trying to feel better? A lot of the struggle with difficult emotion is the fact that we're unwilling to have it and we tried to push it away. We were in Afghanistan. When I was working on that ward, I actually had a number of guys say they wish they'd had a physical injury instead. Coming back with a physical injury and being called a hero or coming back with a mental health problem or PTSD, they felt that whatever they had seen or had to do or been part of it, they should be able to cope with that.

1:10.9

The absolute assumption that this should be easier and I should be able to deal with it. And then if I don't, I'm going to judge myself harshly for that. And so I used to do this thing in therapy of people where... Drinking a new tonic a day will make a man very rich. Will you be that man? Probably not. Will I be? Hopefully. We created Sonic with one thing in mind to help you lock in.

1:30.1

So whether you're making up an excuse, man very rich. Will you be that man? Probably not. Will I be? Hopefully. Recreated

1:27.7

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1:45.4

career trying to answer this question. And so I'm clinical psychologist, as you know, and I spent

1:50.9

about 10 years in the NHS and then I don't know how many years in private practice and then

1:56.2

making content. And part of the reason that even started making content was really about that

2:00.9

question. So I had a lot of not only young people, but a lot of young people who were coming to me

2:07.3

for therapy. And they thought that something was wrong with them. So whenever they had any kind of

2:14.3

normal human distress or maybe they were having lots of emotion because life was

2:18.7

difficult at that point. They thought that meant something was wrong with them. And so they were

2:22.9

coming to me and assuming I was going to do something to them to kind of fix that. And that fixing

2:28.8

that meant feeling better, like taking away any negative emotion that they didn't want to have and kind of

2:35.1

allowing them to have all the lovely emotions that they want back. And I think part of that work

2:42.1

was educating those people to say fluctuation in your mental health is a normal part of being

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