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Hello and welcome to the watch. My name is Chris Ryan. I am an editor at the rigger.com and joining me in the studio. He just got done writing John Carter from Mars fanfic. It's Andy Greenwald.

Oh, that was good. Well, there's not a lot of crash jokes you can make my guy. Do you think happy Monday everybody? Let's talk about. Do you think secretly Zach Mac is recording like just B roll of you workshopping intros to me?

Workshop and crash takes and then and then we're they're all gonna come out at some point. Andy, it's Monday. It's the last Monday in January. I guess.

And does that signify some? No, just calendar notes. Okay. And we're gonna be talking today about the Grammy Awards, which were last night. We're talking about Waco.

And we're talking about Phantom Thread. I don't know where else you could go to get that kind of scope of pop culture conversation and chat.

Sorry about the Grammys, man. Let's get right to it. You and I always historically big Grammy heads.

There is no award show in which the things that are celebrated are farther away from the things that I am interested in. Wow.

Not even the Tonys. No, what about the Clios? No, but like the Tonys you would actually be like, oh, you know, Hamilton's pretty good. That's true. You know, that's a fact.

It's not that I don't have any respect. Yeah, I got playing time for Kendrick and everybody. But what I'm saying is like largely like the spectacle and the celebration of the music industry.

It's like it's like going to an Epcot ride about in the in the future when the music industry is irrelevant. Yeah. And I'm just like, nope, it's not gonna happen.

I agree. This was a super weird one even by Grammy standards. I think Rob Sheffield, I really like Stonett, a great write up on just his how historically weird the Grammys always are and puts it in a really good context for people who are maybe new to realizing how totally blinkered and often just downright comical.

This whole ceremony often is I was thinking a lot last night about the young winner book and we had the author of that book, young one of the creator of Rolling Stone. There was a great biography.

We had Joe Hagen, the author on our podcast a while ago and I was thinking about that interview we did with him in the book and itself and thinking about how where all cultural cover to some degree requires a false narrative or a constructed narrative.

Sure. Even more so today where every morsel of popular culture is analyzed to with an inch of its life.

True. But one of the things that that book does so well is really red lines how rock and roll and the modern music business was created whole cloth by people like Jan winner to give importance to some things and to diminish the importance of other things.

And particularly how pop music is primarily just as a note rock and roll is actually invented by Martin McFly. Yes, when Marvin Barry heard him play guitar and called his that's a great point, especially for our younger listeners.

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