Are most of us working with other people to achieve concrete goals?

No, we're not.

We're not doing that.

We're doing something that's much more about our own short term emotional and intellectual

gratification.

We think we're politically engaged if we know what Nate Silver thinks about an upcoming

election, whereas that's not political engagement at all.

That's something totally weird and different.

Hello, and welcome to Wise Is Happening With Me, your host, Chris Hayes.

So if you are listening to this podcast, you are probably not a particularly representative

of American in the degree of attention you paid to politics.

This is sabbatru.

I wish it were not the case.

It would be awesome if this podcast had like, I don't know, 50 million downloads a month

and like everyone from every walk of life, whether interested in politics or not was listening

to it, but that is not the world we live in at least not yet.

My plan for world domination is not yet complete.

If you are hearing this, if you're hearing the smooth, dulcet tones of my voice through

our nice fancy setup in your ear holes, you are very likely to be kind of a political

junkie.

You're probably a person that reads a lot of political news, spends a lot of time on

the old twitter.com, doing a little doom surfing, doom scrolling with your thumb, just paging

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