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Factually! with Adam Conover

The Problem with Mind-Uploading and Transhumanism with Susan Schneider

Factually! with Adam Conover

Headgum

Comedy

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 19 August 2020

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

Is it really possible to upload your mind to the cloud, or is the entire idea fatally confused? Philosopher Susan Schneider joins Adam to explain how your brain differs from a computer, the limits of AI, and why philosophy must be an essential part of the study and development of artificial minds. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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0:00.0

This is a HeadGum Podcast. I don't know what to think

0:13.0

I don't know what to say

0:16.0

and that's all right

0:19.0

yeah that's okay

0:22.0

I don't know anything.

0:28.0

Hello, welcome to factually. I'm Adam Conover

0:31.0

and, you know, we hear all the time that the brain is a computer, right?

0:36.0

And so, just like a computer, supposedly, you'll one day be able to download your mind,

0:41.6

actual self into the cloud, or maybe upload it into the cloud.

0:45.5

I'm not really sure which way it's supposed to work. And then you just use, I don't know, your

0:49.2

estate, the interest that comes off your investments to pay Elon Musk or whoever for

0:54.0

upkeep on the server farm where your brain will live forever and you'll achieve

0:57.8

immortality. Since your brain is hardware and your mind is software

1:02.2

according to this metaphor downloading our brains is just is

1:05.0

a software, according to this metaphor, downloading our brains is just a technical problem.

1:06.0

So with enough RAM and the right cable plugged into your cerebellum,

1:10.0

well surely you can just port yourself from your brain

1:13.3

right into a hard drive somewhere.

1:14.8

The same way you'd port Minecraft from a PC to your iPad, right?

1:19.2

Well, this brain computer metaphor is useful, but it's just a little bit short of being entirely

1:25.0

uh... true our brains are not really computers

1:31.3

and this metaphor is really deep in our culture. So I know it might be hard to believe, but let me try to break it down for you in a few different ways.

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