Right, so it's got this kind of acceptable level of sexism here at the bottom that people are not supposed to call out.

You're not supposed to say anything, you're kind of supposed to be like, ah, that's just Brian.

You're just one of the boys.

You're just a couple of the other boys.

Yeah, right.

If you engage in locker room talk, it doesn't necessarily mean you're a rapist.

No.

It creates a culture in which rapists can hide.

Hello, and welcome to the Politics Girl podcast.

I'm your host, Lee McGowan.

Let's get into it.

Today's podcast is a candid conversation with Mark Green, co-founder of ThinkPlay Partners,

senior editor for The Good Men Project, founder of Remaking Manhood, and author of the groundbreaking The Little Me Too Book for Men.

Mark is a writer, speaker, and coach, who deals with the challenges men face being raised in what he calls the Man Box Culture.

Mark has spent over a decade writing and speaking on masculinity, and he claims two questions remain at the center of his work.

Why do so many men simply accept the deep loneliness that informs their lives?

And what is the link between men's disconnection with others, and their ongoing abuse and violence against women, and members of traditionally minority and marginalized communities?

Mark's work focuses on deconstructing the binary way we talk about manhood and masculinity, and he works with individuals and organizations to create a healthier, more connected vision of masculine culture.

I'm having Mark on the show because, as I see it, we're at a tipping point, of either a resurgence or the end of the patriarchy as we know it.

We're living through a major upheaval in how our society is structured, and that's getting a lot of pushback from men, who clearly feel they're losing something and they're lashing out, either individually or collectively.

I want to get Mark's take on where he thinks this behavior comes from, and what we can do to make life safer and happier for all of us. Men included.

So without further ado, please welcome my guest, author, writer, and coach, Mark Green. Welcome, Mark.

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