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The Next Level

The Problem with CNN (with Sonny Bunch)

The Next Level

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.92.4K Ratings

🗓️ 7 June 2023

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Sonny joins JVL and Sarah to talk the ouster of Chris Licht from CNN after a devastating profile by Tim Alberta. Plus, Chris Christie and Mike Pence official enter the 2024 primary, the Saudis take over pro-golf, and Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming more mainstream, alienating her from the other fringe members of her party.

Watch the gang record this episode our official YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXgljzlXOIE

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello everyone welcome to the next level. I'm JVL here with my best friend

0:09.2

Sarah Longwell and a very good acquaintance and colleague sunny bunch both of the bulwark.

0:14.5

This is an inside joke because I've known sunny since he was in high school.

0:17.2

Thanks for being with us. Please go and hit the five stars, hit the subscribe, do the thumbs up.

0:22.1

I saw somebody out there on Reddit complaining that I ask you people to do this,

0:26.0

and I thought that was really big of them since we don't charge for this, we don't put

0:30.1

advertising on our website, but they're really pissed off that we take 10 seconds

0:34.6

at the top of the show to ask people to support us

0:36.6

in minimal ways.

0:37.3

You're gonna fight with a random commenter on Reddit?

0:39.8

Yes, I am.

0:41.0

This is why JBL is best when he's not on Twitter by the way.

0:43.8

JVL is a living version of that meme that like cartoon where the guy says to his wife,

0:48.6

I can't go to bed, somebody on the internet is wrong, right?

0:52.4

This is why I stay off the Twitter,

0:54.0

and I do all that on my podcast where they can't talk back to me.

0:57.0

Okay, guys, it's a big morning.

1:00.0

We woke up to news that Chris Licked, I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly because otherwise it'll be awkward,

1:06.3

is out as the CEO of CNN. This is amazing on a bunch of different levels because this is one of the rare cases where a journalist killed a guy's career. Doesn't happen all that often.

1:21.0

Tim Alberta, a friend of the bulwarks, published a 15,000 word profile of Licked in the Atlantic last week.

1:29.0

And it was so devastating that it was clear from the outset, Licked would not be able to survive the publication of this thing.

1:35.0

Let's talk about it, because most of my thoughts are about Tim Alberta.

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