The Prison Problem
The Briefing Room
BBC
4.8 • 731 Ratings
🗓️ 8 December 2016
⏱️ 28 minutes
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Summary
What are the policies and political decisions which led to the current crisis in prisons?
Prison life isn't meant to be easy but it is supposed to be safe and secure. Drugs, violence, self-harm and suicide are all increasing problems.
David Aaronovitch examines what's gone wrong and hears stories from inside the prison system. He explores what over-crowding and under-staffing means for prisoners and officers alike who live with it day in, day out.
The programme also looks beyond the budget and staff cuts to explore the impact of sentencing changes, institutional leadership, and political opposition to more liberal policies which might ease the pressure in an overcrowded system. And we also discuss the current impact of drugs in prison and ask what role corrupt prison staff might play in the smuggling of contraband.
What would it take to bring prisons under control and longer term, how can we stop the next prison crisis and get the system working properly again?
CONTRIBUTORS
Charles - a former inmate at a London prison, now working with the rehabilitation and education charity Key4Life
John Podmore - former Governor of HMP Brixton and HMP Belmarsh; author of Out of Sight Out of Mind: Why Britain's Prisons Are Failing
Helen Arnold - Lecturer in Criminology at the University of Suffolk and Visiting Scholar at the Institute of Criminology, Cambridge University
Julian McCrae - Deputy Director of the Institute for Government and former Deputy Director of the Prime Minister's Strategy Unit (2009)
Producer: Matt Bardo Research: Kirsteen Knight & Beth Sagar-Fenton
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | We in Britain run institutions where narcotic use is rife. |
| 0:07.0 | Drugs is a massive trade. If you have drugs, effectively you have money. |
| 0:11.0 | Drugs is majorly influential. It's the most influential resource that people have inside there. |
| 0:15.0 | And where violence is taken for granted. |
| 0:18.0 | If you're a gangster or you're involved in a sort of street culture, one way or another, |
| 0:22.1 | you're going to normally end up in prison and you're going to obviously meet with people that you |
| 0:24.9 | don't have a good report with. So in that instance there, you have loads of gang violence. It just happens, |
| 0:29.9 | really. And it's happening more. Step with me into the briefing room to discover why we're losing |
| 0:35.8 | control of our prisons. |
| 0:43.0 | I'll be briefed by a group of experts who have experience of prison or knowledge of prison policy. |
| 0:50.3 | But first, listen to Charles, recently released from a category B prison who I spoke to earlier. |
| 0:58.9 | Immediately after you're sentenced, you'd be cuffed and taken downstairs to like a holding dock. |
| 1:00.0 | From there, you're transported to the prison alongside other prisons on the bus. |
| 1:03.9 | And there you're taking to a sort of induction wing. |
| 1:06.6 | Anyone who's coming into that prison will all be held in like a reception area. |
| 1:10.3 | And then after that |
| 1:11.2 | you join the wing the following day and then what what i mean you know okay so that's where the |
| 1:16.5 | movies become that little bit real so you do walk into a really kind of cold empty sort of environment |
| 1:24.4 | that's what you call the wing you got cells to either your sides and it's maybe got four floors or something of that sort of there and That's what you call the wing. You've got cells to either your sides |
| 1:27.7 | and it's maybe got four floors or something of that sort of there and metal railings and so |
| 1:31.8 | and so forth and it's like it's really manic. Because when you first arrive there, sometimes |
| 1:35.1 | you might come during something called association. That's when everyone's out and about doing |
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