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The Gray Area with Sean Illing

The price of keeping secrets

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Vox Media Podcast Network

Society & Culture, News, Politics, News Commentary, Philosophy

4.610.8K Ratings

🗓️ 18 July 2022

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Sean Illing talks with professor Michael Slepian, author of The Secret Life of Secrets. This new book explores secret-keeping behavior and its consequences, as well as how secrecy relates to trust. Sean and Michael talk about what things we keep secret, why we're so worried about keeping them secret, and the toll that secret-keeping can have on us. They also talk about how the issue of secrecy relates to authenticity, and our fears of being judged by others. Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), Interviews Writer, Vox Guest: Michael Slepian (@michaelslepian), author; professor, Columbia Business School References: The Secret Life of Secrets: How Our Inner Worlds Shape Well-Being, Relationships, and Who We Are by Michael Slepian (Crown; 2022) "Why the Secrets You Keep Are Hurting You" by Michael Slepian (Scientific American; Feb. 5, 2019) "Spill the Beans" by Olga Khazan (The Atlantic; July 8, 2015) "Keeping Secrets Isn't So Bad for You After All — With One Exception" by Olivia Campbell (New York; May 3, 2017) Enjoyed this episode? Rate Vox Conversations ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ and leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Subscribe for free. Be the first to hear the next episode of Vox Conversations by subscribing in your favorite podcast app. Support Vox Conversations by making a financial contribution to Vox! bit.ly/givepodcasts This episode was made by: Producer: Erikk Geannikis Editor: Amy Drozdowska Engineer: Patrick Boyd Deputy Editorial Director, Vox Talk: Amber Hall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Amazon's got the best deals on Black Friday

0:03.0

All the best deals are on Cyber Monday

0:05.5

Friday comes first when it comes to saving

0:08.0

Mondays worth the wait for what you've been craving

0:11.0

Deal so good it'll feel like stealing real cool

0:14.0

Message could you make it less appealing

0:16.0

Waps with the beef you can get that too

0:18.0

Want to call us?

0:19.5

What's triggering you?

0:21.0

It's Shabber Day, you're shopping

0:23.0

God you'll save a bunch at Amazon

0:27.0

Black Friday's like Monday too

0:30.0

What's the cost of keeping secrets?

0:34.0

I'm Shawnealing and I'm your host for box conversations

0:41.0

Let's be honest I have secrets so do you

0:54.0

So does everyone else

0:57.0

This is one of the many things human beings do

1:00.0

We hide stuff from other people

1:03.0

But why do we do this?

1:06.0

Are we afraid of intimacy or are we ashamed of our past?

1:12.0

And perhaps more importantly, what does all that secrecy cost us?

1:19.0

These are questions a new book tries to answer

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