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The Pregnancy Episode: Ep. 282

Tablet Studios

Tablet Magazine

Judaism, Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality

4.6 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 22 July 2021

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

This week on Unorthodox, we’re talking all things Jewish pregnancy, from traditions and superstitions to genetic testing and fertility treatment. First we hear from Estie Rose, a genetic counselor and outreach coordinator for JScreen, a genetic testing nonprofit based at Emory University, about the importance of screening for Tay-Sachs, the BRCA gene, and other specifically Jewish conditions when planning for pregnancy. Then Dr. Bat-Sheva Maslow, a reproductive endocrinologist at Extend Fertility, explains halachic infertility, how common it really is, and what experts like them can do to solve/cure/manage fertility challenges. Next, we dive into the superstitions that arise when you’re expecting Jewishly. To cover what these traditions are and why they have such a strong hold over so many of us, we turn to Rabbi Mychal Springer, adjunct professor at Jewish Theological Seminary and manager of clinical pastoral education at New York Presbyterian Hospital, Dara Horn, whose forthcoming book is People Love Dead Jews, and Esther Levy-Chehebar, a Tablet contributor who has written about her family’s Syrian Jewish pregnancy traditions. Then Rabbi Miriam-Simma Walfish, faculty and senior pedagogy coach at the Hadar Institute, tells us about some of the biblical mothers whose stories still resonate today. Finally, we speak to Anita Diamant, the bestselling author of novels like The Red Tent, about her pregnancy guide The New Jewish Baby Book and why we spend so much time puzzling over baby names. Send us your stories for our upcoming special episodes. Were you or someone you know a Jewish scout? Do you have stories of apologies given or owed, for our annual Yom Kippur Apology episode? Leave us a voicemail (under a minute long) at (914) 570-4869, or record a voice memo on your phone and email it to unorthodox@tabletmag.com to be featured on the episode. Like the show? Rate us on iTunes! Subscribe to our weekly newsletter to get new episodes, photos, and more. Join our Facebook group, and follow Unorthodox on Twitter and Instagram. Get your Unorthodox T-shirts, mugs, and baby onesies at bit.ly/unorthoshirt. Want to book us for a live show? Email producer Josh Kross at jkross@tabletmag.com. Check out all of Tablet’s podcasts at tabletmag.com/podcasts. Sponsors: AJWS supports activists working with vulnerable communities around the globe throughout the ongoing pandemic. Make your twice-matched, tax-deductible donation today at AJWS.org/unorthodox. KOL Foods wants to give you a free turkey breast! Be one of the first ten people to head to KOLFoods.com and use promo code UnorthodoxRH while you check out for 10% off your order.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, Josh. It's 70. I'm so sorry. Something came up and I'm not going to be able to finish this segment in time. Um, I'll explain later.

0:10.0

This is on Orthodox. The universe is leading Jewish podcast. I am your host Mark Oppenheimer joined as ever by my fellow hosts, tablet editor at large lila vets.

0:22.0

Hello and tablet deputy editor Stephanie buttec. Hello 37 weeks and and reporting for duty and by the time people hear this 38 weeks and reporting for duty, right?

0:31.0

Poo poo poo poo poo poo. Today a special episode for you all about, well, I want Stephanie to tell you what it's all going to be about Stephanie.

0:40.0

What are we talking about this episode and why?

0:42.0

So the nice thing about hosting your own podcast is that you can take things that are happening to you and make full episodes about them.

0:48.0

So like sometimes we have episodes about Yom Kapoor, which is, you know, very universal. And sometimes you're like nine months pregnant and want to do an episode exploring Jewish pregnancy.

0:56.0

And so I am very grateful to the team for letting us do this. But you know, when I say I want to do a being pleasantly drunk on a Wednesday evening episode, the all said it was a bad idea.

1:06.0

It's too niche. It's too niche. Isn't that every episode liel is pleasantly hung over on a Tuesday morning with liel? Correct.

1:13.0

Club going up. So today we have a very special episode for our listeners. I think it will be relevant hopefully to all people regardless of where you are in your life.

1:20.0

Every human being has either gestated or been gestated. So it is actually relevant to all of us. I think everyone's been gestated. So I think that this hopefully will be relevant and interesting to people.

1:30.0

You know, we talked to experts on Jewish baby names superstitions about pregnancy and childbirth Jewish genetic diseases and more. And really this did start because even before I got pregnant, I will say that I was thinking about the Jewish implications of all this.

1:43.0

My husband then is a rocket carrier. And that is a gene mutation that largely affects Ashkenazi Jews and actually affects more people than people realize. And as another thing people don't realize is affects men as well.

1:55.0

So from the start, we were thinking about what it means to essentially have a Jewish genetic disease and to sort of start this reproductive process with that in mind.

2:03.0

So you had a super Jewish pregnancy. So yes, yes, deeply, deeply Jewish. And then of course, you know, all of a sudden you're like, OK, so what happens now? I'm so superstitious. Is that because I'm Jewish or I'm anxious? Like there's so much that happens that you can tie into your Jewish experience.

2:19.0

Right, like I knew right from the start that I wasn't going to have a baby shower because for the most part Jews don't typically have those.

2:25.0

But as things sort of went along, I was like, well, why let's actually look into all of these things. You know, I started thinking about, you know, the women of the Bible and what fertility and what pregnancy, even like the act of baby naming, naming a child in the Bible.

2:37.0

Like we learned about that in my religious studies classes. I mean, I really started thinking about all these things in a new context.

2:42.0

And so what I really wanted to do with today's show, and again, grateful to everyone on this team for going along with this is, is really interrogate all of these things, right?

2:51.0

Why don't Ashkenazi Jews name babies after living relatives, but Safari Jews do. I mean, why all these things? Why are there so many superstitions that we sort of know about in our minds, but don't necessarily understand the context of and sort of like expecting Jewishly.

3:04.0

And, and I'm actually not the only person on this team who is expecting Jewishly, our amazing producer, Sarah Frednader is also part of the unorthodox baby boom.

3:13.0

Say we have a hundred percent of those who hadn't got pregnant.

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