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🗓️ 22 September 2020
⏱️ 30 minutes
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0:00.0 | The bottom dropped out of the labor market for low and middle income workers a long time ago. |
0:09.0 | It's just that the pandemic made it even clearer. |
0:12.8 | So you can't go to your employer and say, |
0:16.0 | hey, if you don't give me a raise, I'm going to quit |
0:17.6 | because the employer knows that there's no place for you to go. |
0:20.7 | So it's that sense of having no other options but to work that you were forced labor? |
0:27.0 | From the offices of Civic Ventures in downtown Seattle, this is Pitch Fork Economics with |
0:38.3 | Nick Hanauer, where we explore everything they forgot to teach you in Econ 101. |
0:45.0 | I'm Nick Hanauer, founder of Civic Ventures. |
0:51.0 | I'm David Goldstein, Senior Fellow at Civic Ventures. |
0:56.0 | So Nick, I think there's been kind of a theme, an inadvertent theme to our podcast the past few weeks. |
1:06.7 | Yeah, the demise of worker power and the massive accumulation of both it's a legal political and economic power at the top that defines American life today |
1:19.0 | And we're sick into that theme on this this week's podcast too. |
1:23.4 | Yeah, we get to talk to this really incredibly talented young economist |
1:28.6 | Soresh Naidu out of Columbia University, |
1:31.2 | who's one of the sort of bright lights in that field and he's been writing about |
1:35.2 | labor markets for a long time and thinking about them he has a bunch of cool new writing in particular |
1:41.1 | around what he calls forced labor, the forced labor of so-called |
1:46.1 | essential workers. Right, which came to the forefront during this pandemic |
1:51.6 | where it turns out that these essential workers are largely |
1:57.2 | low-wage workers, so workers in the bottom half of the distribution, and these people were not seeing hazard pay in this economy. |
2:06.5 | No, and what's even darker than that is it not only weren't these folks being compensated for the extra risk they were taking by going to work during a deadly pandemic, |
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