Grandma Girl here, I'm in Yon Fog, Fog, and today I'm here with Karen Yin.

Karen is an award-winning editor and writer.

Pointer named her website conscious style guide.com

one of the top tools for journalists.

She's an official member of the Chicago Manual of Style Advisory Board and we're here today

to talk about her fabulous new book, The Conscious Style Guide, a flexible approach to language that includes respects and empowers.

Karen Yin, welcome to the Grammar Girl podcast.

Hi, man, thank you so much for having me.

I such a delight to be here. Yeah, I'm thrilled to have you. And so I think it's

important for people to know that you actually coined the term, conscious language, that's your term. So

why don't you tell us what that means?

I did because in the early days of my website I would describe like the kind of language that I was covering in this really unwieldy kind of never-ending sentence.

I would say, it is kind language, it is respectful language, it is like it had all these adjectives.

And I figured, you know, if I just say conscious language is language that promotes equity,

that really helps get the point across.

So I learned to really like tighten things up so that because using

conscious language also means saying things in a way so that your audience

understand it. So yeah, everything is a work in progress and conscious language, the term was meant to

cover like all these different types of things that I was observing going on,

but it didn't have a label, it didn't have a name.

And as we know, giving things a name

makes it a thing and it allows us to actually talk about it.

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