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Depresh Mode with John Moe

The Power of Story in Shaping Mental Health

Depresh Mode with John Moe

Maximum Fun

Mental Health, Comedy, John Moe, Comedy Interviews, Interview, Health & Fitness

5777 Ratings

🗓️ 5 December 2022

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

The New Yorker’s Rachel Aviv, author of Strangers to Ourselves: Unsettled Minds and the Stories That Make Us.

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0:00.0

Terminology and definitions are great, often. Specificity can be very useful, mostly, sometimes.

0:09.3

It's depression mode. I'm John Moe. I'm glad you're here.

0:20.6

Strict classification can save a lot of time when it comes to mental health.

0:25.6

You say anorexia, and people know what that means.

0:28.7

You say major depressive disorder.

0:30.8

People get it.

0:32.1

Sometimes you can even skip past the words and just use acronyms.

0:35.8

We say that someone has PTSD or OCD and people will know what

0:41.3

you mean. They'll understand the person you're talking about better. There's a catch though.

0:47.6

Terms and definitions aren't so useful in portraying the full complexity and nuance of a person's brain.

0:55.2

You can say someone has an anxiety disorder, but that doesn't cover what that person's

0:59.6

life experiences have been. It doesn't shed much light on what they inherited genetically.

1:05.7

It doesn't say much about their biology. And that's when we need to tell stories. That's when we need to hear about

1:12.9

someone's life, as much of it as we can. And in those stories, we can understand more about

1:19.0

the human being and whatever is going on in their minds. We can get where those terms and definitions

1:25.4

fit neatly and where they might not fit so well.

1:29.3

It's a heavier lift to tell stories. It's a lot more work, and it's even a lot more work

1:34.3

to hear stories about someone's full human mental complexity. But that's what's great about books.

1:42.0

Rachel Aviv is a staff writer for The New Yorker, and she has a new

1:45.9

book, Strangers to Ourselves, Unsettled Minds and the Stories That Make Us. The book is a series of

1:52.3

profiles of people with evident mental health issues, including Rachel herself. But in telling the

1:58.1

full stories of these people, beyond the terms that a doctor might use,

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