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I've learned that Hurt hides and Hurt is often multifaceted, meaning that you could

be struggling both from judgmentalism and rejection or by unresolved conflict and someone's

wounding words. I think the inner wounds are often

compounding in their effect on our lives.

And I also believe that God wants to heal every layer of hurt that you've experienced.

Welcome to the Jesus Calling Podcast. This week we'll hear from two influential

voices in the Christian community, Joe Dobins and Amy Bird.

Joe Dobins, pastor of Twin Rivers Church in St. Louis, Missouri, and the author of Hope

After Church Hurt, shares he and his wife's painful experiences with their church and the healing process that followed.

His insides provide a roadmap for those struggling with similar wounds,

offering steps toward restoring faith and re-engaging with the church.

Following Joe's story, our next guest is speaker, blogger, and podcaster Amy Bird.

Amy opens up about her lifelong journey of searching for belonging in the church, and how she learned through trials

and painful hurts that God wants us to ask questions.

And even though we might be scarred by those who twist truths to facilitate how they think we should live, we can find our way back to

God and what he says about how we were meant to live.

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