Never looking backward is a colossally stupid idea. What you want to do is you want to look

backward, but you want to look backward in a particular way that allows you to understand

your choice, unburden yourself of that choice, extract a lesson from that choice and apply

going forward.

I'm Chris Hill and that was Dan Pink, author of multiple bestselling books including

Drive to Sell is Human and When, the scientific secrets of perfect timing. His new book is

the power of regret how looking backward moves us forward. I wanted to talk with Dan about

his book and since he's written about the business world, I also got his thoughts on where

companies are going with office space and hybrid work. And since I know he's a sports fan,

I also asked him to save the Major League Baseball season. I know that probably wasn't

fair for me to ask since he's not actually involved in the negotiations between baseball

owners and players, but I don't regret asking. Until I read Dan's book, I never really

thought of regret as being something with great power. So I started by asking him, what

got him interested in this topic?

I think it was because, mostly because I realized that I had regrets of my own and if there

was a catalytic moment and you can certainly relate to this with two kids in college,

is that I had my elder daughter graduated from college in 2019 and I'm at her graduation

and I'm having this out of body experience where I can't believe this kid is old enough

to graduate from college and I also can't believe that I have a kid who's graduated from

college because I'm like 24. And so I'm having this out of body experience and I'm thinking

about what was my college like and I started thinking about all these regrets that I had.

But I didn't work hard enough, that didn't take enough risks. One that really bugs me

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