Hi, it's Jill Schlesinger, and on this episode of Jill on Money, we're classing up the joint

with Nigel Travis. Check out this accent.

I think where some CEOs go wrong is they say but don't do. I think you have to go down, you

have to talk to people in Washington or it could be Sacramento if it's California. You have to go and see people talk about it. It's no good just going on

the radio or the TV and saying this is what needs to happen. You need to explain your point of view.

I think in many ways it goes back to civility.

Welcome to the Jill on Money Podcast.

This is where you get a little bit of Jill on your money

every single week, sometimes twice a week, sometimes three times a week.

We are trying to help you make sense of your financial life one person at a time. It's also the show where I try to bring on guests who are really interesting,

unconventional, maybe entertaining, and today is no different. We have Nigel Travis who is the chairman of Duncan Brands.

Duncan, right? Duncan Donuts? DD, you know? They change things around a little bit

but I'm just gonna say let's call it

Duncan Donuts he wrote a book called The Challenge Culture why the most

successful organizations run on pushback you know I thought this was a good thing to bring to you for the new year

especially for those of you who are potentially running divisions or maybe even just running

your own small business.

This guy has a really interesting outlook

and one that I have not heard from a lot of C-suite executives.

Plus, as Mark and I always note,

he's got a cool accent, and that counts for a lot with us.

Okay, so if you have a financial question, don't forget you can email us.

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