The Power of Plant Medicine with Kat Courtney
Life, Death & The Space Between with Dr. Amy Robbins
Dr. Amy Robbins
4.8 • 587 Ratings
🗓️ 4 August 2022
⏱️ 53 minutes
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Summary
The Power of Plant Medicine with Kat Courtney
“They’ve taught me that truth is the only way out of chaos. So first I have to first show up real, vulnerable, and all in.” – Kat Courtney, on psychedelic sacred medicine plant journeys
“Drinking plant medicine a few times and assuming you know how to lead a ceremony is like watching a few episodes of Grey’s Anatomy and assuming you know how to perform surgery.” – Kat Courtney
Episode Summary:
Have you been hearing more and more lately about psychedelics and healing? We sure have!
Today we talk with Tina “Kat” Courtney, known as The AfterLife Coach, a traditionally trained Ayahuasquera and Huachumera, carrying the Shipibo-Conibo, Quechua-Lamista, and Chavin plant medicine lineages.
She works as a ceremony guide, psychedelic integration coach, and is a certified Death Doula. Kat is an enthusiastic advocate for reverent and safe plant medicine experiences and is a passionate messenger of how to co-create magic without trauma in psychedelic spaces.
She is also the co-founder of Plant Medicine People, a Plant Medicine concierge company and the author of “Plant Medicine Mystery School”.
Listen in to hear how sacred plant medicines can help us all heal.
Topics We Discuss:
- [3:30] Kat’s first experiences with plant medicine. Becoming hopeful she was able to heal significant then-day challenges: bulimia, functional alcoholism, bipolar disorder.
- [5:53] Appropriate reverence for sacred plant medicine.
- [8:07] Differences between plant consciousness and human consciousness. Ego vs. unity consciousness.
- [11:11] The pothole of spiritual bypassing using psychedelics.
- [13:30] Drug Induced Ego Dissolution (DIED) aka Ego Death. The experience of unity consciousness – our connection to everything, interconnectedness and safety.
- [17:16] Kat cautions people NOT to force an ego death during a psychedelic experience from a place of “ego = bad”. Instead, take the experience from a place of self-love.
- [19:28] The importance of integration following any peak experiences, whether from trauma, plant medicine, or life itself. Spending time making sense of the experience.
- [23:09] Although not physically addictive, the real possibility of psychological addiction and abuse of plant medicines.
- [25:25] Kat’s thoughts, as a white woman from Montana, on Westernizing and capitalizing what is a traditionally indigenous ritual.
- [32:47] Kat’s assessment of lab-created synthetic vs. natural, organic psychedelics.
- [36:25] The “personalities” of the major plant medicines: ayahuasca, psilocybin, Huachuca (San Pedro cactus), bufo toad venom, and iboga.
- [42:18] Micro-dosing vs. divine dosing, and all points between.
- [45:05] What the plants are saying about what humanity is doing globally today.
- [48:36] Amy’s speed round questions: What is spirituality? What is something people don’t know about you? What is one thing you’re looking forward to right now? What’s one thing you’re deeply grateful for? What book in on your nightstand? What is your favorite spiritual or healing practice? What is the most spiritually transformative experience of your life?
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If you’d like to work with Kat, or join her in a Sacred Ceremony (maybe a ayahuasca retreat), find out more at www.afterlife.coach and www.plantmedicinepeople.com.
You can find Kat’s book “Plant Medicine Mystery School” on Amazon and wherever books are sold.
Or follow her on Instagram or LinkedIn.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, I'm Dr. Amy Robbins and welcome to life, death, and the space between podcast. |
| 0:08.8 | I'm a licensed clinical psychologist and medium and here we explore life, death, consciousness, |
| 0:15.0 | and what it all means. |
| 0:17.1 | I'm so excited for today's interview because I have recently gotten way more interested in psychedelics as they pertain to our psychological and spiritual well-being. |
| 0:29.2 | Obviously, it's a really huge emerging field right now. So many, so many people are talking about it. |
| 0:36.5 | Certainly so many clinicians in my field of work are curious about it. I'm actually talking about it. Certainly so many clinicians in my field of work are curious about it. |
| 0:41.2 | I'm actually taking a course right now on psychoanalysis and psychedelics. |
| 0:45.8 | So I'm excited to have this conversation today with Tina Kat, Courtney. |
| 0:52.0 | Kat is known as the afterlife coach and is traditionally trained, okay, bear with |
| 0:57.6 | me everybody, is a traditionally trained ayahuascairah, Wachamara, carrying the Shibo Konovo, |
| 1:08.1 | Ketchwa Lamista, and Chavine plant medicine lineages. |
| 1:12.9 | That was a mouthful. |
| 1:14.2 | She works as a ceremony guide and psychedelic integration coach and is a certified death |
| 1:19.3 | doula. |
| 1:20.4 | Kat is an enthusiastic advocate for reverence and safe plant medicine experiences and is a passionate messenger of how to co-create |
| 1:29.4 | magic without trauma and psychedelic spaces. |
| 1:33.0 | She is the co-founder of plant medicine people, a plant medicine concierge company, and the author |
| 1:38.2 | of Plant Medicine Mystery School. |
| 1:40.9 | If you would like to work with Kat or join her in sacred ceremony, you can find out more |
| 1:45.6 | about her at afterlifecoach.com and plant medicine people.com. Welcome, Kat. Thank you so much for |
| 1:53.1 | having me, Dr. Robin. This is like a thrill to be here. So much for everybody who has supported the |
| 1:58.4 | podcast. So there's so many ways you can support the podcast and the work that I'm doing. |
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