Well, hello there and welcome back. My name is Stephanie Safarian and you're listening to Episode 583 of Sustainable Minimalists. This is a listener-supported show about intentional and eco-friendly minimalist living. And on today's show, we are discussing ways in which we can set up our homes so that they meet our three core needs.

Now, did you know that humans have three core needs? I'm going to be honest, I did not necessarily

know that. But my guest today is going to outline what those needs are. And more specifically,

he outlines how we can curate our spaces, not so that they're trendy,

not so that our houses look like everybody else is, but so that our homes meet our core needs.

My guest today is Lighty Clots, and if you know that name, that's because he's been on the show.

It's been a few years.

But Lighty was on the show back in 2021. We talked about subtraction. So usually, you know, when we have a

problem, we think about what can we add to our lives. What can we buy? What can we bring in?

But Lydie's research found that actually sometimes when we have a problem,

the best choice is not to add something more. It's to subtract. It's to take away. So I've linked to

his original appearance on the show in this week's show notes. But today we are talking about

the main points and Lydie's newest book,

and it is titled In a Good Place, How the Spaces Where We Live, Work, and Play can

help us thrive. Oh my goodness, Lydie, I am so excited to talk to you again. How are you?

I'm great. I'm excited to talk to you as well, Stephanie. I've

learned a lot talking to you last time, so I'm sure I learned more that I wish I put in the book

just from having this conversation. You learned from me. That's not how it works. I learned a lot

from you. You were on the show a previous time. We talked about your book subtract. Really great

stuff in that one. But tell us,

remind us, I should say, who are you, what do you do, and why did you write another book in a good

place? So my name's Lydie Klotz. I'm a professor at the University of Virginia. I'm also an author.

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