Imagine things getting worse is easy. It's cheap. It's very cheap to imagine how things go wrong.

Because that is the probable destination. That's the S entropy. The intracurbie is most things

are going to fail. Most things are going to break. It's easy to imagine and breaking. It's much

harder to imagine how things work well. And we have this problem right now with AI. It's far

easier to imagine all the ways that it doesn't work and harder to imagine how it works.

I'm Mary Long and that's Kevin Kelly, founding editor of Wired magazine and author of the new book

Excellent Advice for Living. Motleyful co-founder David Gardner caught up with Kelly to discuss

a key financial concept that applies to all aspects of life, the imagination required of optimists

and how Amazon won through optionality. This is an excerpt from a full interview, which you can

listen to on the Rule Breaker investing podcast. We'll put a link in the show notes for you.

I asked you ahead of time if you would consent to me randomizing different pages of your book

and then just picking my favorite quote off that page and doing the interview that way and you

said you would allow us to go where our Wimbs here in this case my dice take us. And so

that's where we're going to start Kevin. I lined up about eight quotes here and this was randomly

chosen. In fact, the order we'll be talking through these was itself randomly chosen. I guess a

less lazy interviewer would have actually sculpted everything, but I'm this is how I roll and I think

you're really good with that too. So let's start with the first quote for each of these. I'm just

going to spot you up and there might be a story or an anecdote that you have in mind or simply

additional thoughts you have for each. And I kind of love that the first one I randomized was from

page 85. And this is what you write on page 85. All the greatest prizes in life in wealth,

relationships or knowledge come from the magic of compounding interest by amplifying small,

steady gains. All you need for abundance is to keep adding one percent more than you subtract

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