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Welcome to the Quillette podcast, hosted on alternate weeks by me, Jonathan Kay, and by Iona Italia. Quillette is where

free thought lives. We are an independent grassroots platform for heterodox ideas and fearless

commentary. You are about to hear a free preview of this week's episode. To hear the full episode,

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My guest this week is environmental journalist Marco Vischer, author of the Power of Nuclear.

I talk to Marco about nuclear power. Among other things, we talk about how Marco himself

came to become an advocate for nuclear after initial skepticism. We discuss the role of nuclear

in mitigating climate change. We compare the costs of nuclear versus renewables and talk about why renewables alone are unlikely to bring us energy abundance anytime soon.

And we discuss the issue of nuclear waste.

Finally, we talk about the future of energy, in particular in Africa.

I hope you enjoy my conversation with Marco Vischer.

Okay, so Marco, you're an environmental journalist, and you used to feel that nuclear power

was an energy source without a future, a technology without a future.

But you have completely changed your mind about that.

Do you want to talk me through the process,

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