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Order of Man

The Power of Intention, High-Income Skills, and Overcoming Financial Hurdles | ASK ME ANYTHING

Order of Man

Ryan Michler

Business, Health, Leadership, Relationships, Man, Society & Culture, Intellect, Style, Lifestyle, Money, Selfdevelopment, Wealth, Fitness, Selfhelp, Nutrition

4.89K Ratings

🗓️ 24 September 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

In Part 2 of this Ask Me Anything Ryan and Kipp tackle real listener money
questions - from Roth vs. traditional 401(k)s and how to start saving at
48, to scaling rental portfolios, buying land, and running a meat
processing business. They also discuss high-income skills, the psychology
of debt and “usury,” and whether cashing out investments to pay a low-rate
mortgage makes sense. Packed with actionable prudence, blunt honesty, and
practical frameworks for financial decisions. Tune in, take notes, and
move to action.

SHOW HIGHLIGHTS
00:00 - Intro
01:33 - Roth vs. Traditional 401(k) (Mike Cole)
04:22 - Biggest moves at 48 with nothing saved (Lonnie McIntyre)
10:57 - Scaling rentals: use equity or let it pay off (Jeremy Fulmer)
14:07 - Considering closing 401(k) to buy land (Mike)
16:57 - Starting a meat processing business (Jeff Kessler)
23:18 - Experience vs. price: creating convenience & premium services
26:21 - High-income skills & why connection matters (Jonathan Webster)
34:05 - Usury, debt culture & values (Jason Cole)
41:51 - Paying off mortgage vs. investing (Chris Edmondson)
47:35 - Iron Council / Order of Man promo & outro

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Transcript

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0:00.0

I think you either have to create a cool experience or extreme convenience.

0:07.0

To me, those are the two things. If you can make somebody's life easier or you can make it a really cool experience, then that's what you would do if you didn't want to compete on price alone.

0:20.9

Kip, what's up, man?

0:21.8

It's weird to be recording on a Friday morning.

0:24.6

We're usually doing Monday morning, but here we are on Friday.

0:27.1

So we're not even going to be able to talk about the crazy stuff that happens over the weekend

0:32.5

when everybody's kind of tapped out and doing their own thing.

0:37.1

Yeah. Instead, we'll talk about the crazy stuff that happened during the week, which might be

0:41.1

closer from a timeline perspective. So I don't know, maybe we're good.

0:45.3

Yeah, we'll see. We'll see how it goes. Well, I'm looking forward to it. This is part two.

0:49.8

There was a lot of good questions based on our Asked Me Anything last week regarding money and debt and investing and saving and everything else, budgeting.

0:58.4

So I figured we'd take the remainder of the questions for this week.

1:02.4

And then the following week, we'll go ahead and move into a new realm and a new topic.

1:06.5

I'm curious what you think that topic should be.

1:09.2

Do you have anything in mind or anything in particular?

1:14.5

No, I don't.

1:15.5

Okay. Well, I mean, I, I'd want to give some thought to it, but.

1:18.3

And the guys listening might have some ideas too.

1:20.3

So if you have ideas, you can do one of two things to share those ideas with us.

1:24.5

Go to Facebook.com slash groups slash order of man sign up there um i just

1:30.9

re-recorded an intro video because the intro video that was on there was from five or six years ago

1:36.1

and i look completely different and so there's some updated videos there but then you can ask

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