The Power of Girls (Mattie Kahn)

Pulling The Thread with Elise Loehnen

Elise Loehnen

Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality, Self-improvement, Education

4.8 • 900 Ratings

🗓️ 28 March 2024

⏱️ 55 minutes

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“I think historically we have always seen that intergenerational partnership is the way that movements grow and expand and the way people feel resilient about what they're trying to accomplish. The first defeat as a young person, when you feel your morals are on the line, your sense of justice is on the line, that is such a devastating blow and you really need people who've been doing this work for a long time to say, yeah, you're right. That's how that feels. It sucks. It hurts so bad. And this is how, when it happened to me, I got up again and I kept fighting. There is no future for progress without that kind of perspective. You need the fiery engagement of young people and you need the sense of history and the sense of perspective that older people can provide.” So says Mattie Kahn, a prolific writer whose work has appeared in The Atlantic, The Washington Post, The New York Times, and more. Mattie was also the culture director at Glamour and a staff editor at Elle. Today, she joins me to talk about her book, Young and Restless: The Girls Who Sparked America’s Revolutions, which is a much-needed survey of young female voices who were and are often at the heart of political movements, whether it was bus boycotts, strikes at mills, or the environmental movement unfolding today. This isn’t just a book about ensuring that the names of these girls are preserved by history, though, this is an examination of why girls are frequently so central to social change, and what it is about their often-precocious voices that can capture the attention of the nation. This, of course, is a double-edged sword, as Mattie’s work explores how quickly we dump these girls, or move on, once they turn into angry women. Today, we also talk about what’s happening on campuses and what a container might look like to hold dialogue, debate, and discourse. MORE FROM MATTIE KAHN: Young and Restless: The Girls Who Sparked America’s Revolutions Mattie’s Website Follow Mattie on Instagram To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hi, it's Elise Loonen, host of Pulling the Thread. Today I'm joined by the brilliant writer and
0:05.6	journalist Maddie Kahn, author of Young and Restless, The Girls Who Sparked America's
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0:52.9	Hi, it's Elise Loonan, host of Pulling the Thread. On this show, we pull apart the web in which we all live to understand who we are and why we're here. Pulling the thread is about big questions. Why we do what we do, how we can understand our own experiences within a larger spiritual and historical context,
1:12.1	the ways in which we might begin to understand ourselves and each other better, and what's
1:16.4	required to heal ourselves and our world. I'll be joined in conversation by luminaries and wise
1:22.1	elders, those who have laid tracks in their work and lives to help us bring meaning and understanding
1:27.0	to a world that often feels chaotic and overwhelming.
1:30.3	My hope is that these conversations spark moments of resonance and plant tiny seeds of awareness so that we might all collectively learn and grow.
1:39.3	I think historically we have always seen that intergenerational partnership is the way that movements grow and expand and the way people feel resilient about what they're trying to accomplish.
1:51.0	The first defeat as a young person when you feel your morals are on the line, your sense of justice is on the line, that is such a devastating blow.
2:00.0	And you really need people who've been
2:01.8	doing this work for a long time to say, yeah, you're right. That's how that feels. It sucks. It
2:06.7	hurts so bad. And this is how when it happened to me, I got up again and I kept fighting.
2:11.6	There is no future for progress without that kind of perspective. You need the fiery engagement of young people,
2:18.4	and you need the sense of history and the sense of perspective that older people can provide.
2:24.0	So says Maddie Kahn, a prolific writer whose work has appeared in the Atlantic,
2:28.2	The Washington Post, the New York Times, and more. Maddie was also the culture director
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