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The Unmistakable Creative Podcast

The Power of Experiential Learning with Joshua Spodek

The Unmistakable Creative Podcast

Srinivas Rao

Society & Culture

4.81K Ratings

🗓️ 8 June 2016

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary


“No one who is learning to play a musical instrument, no one who wants to learn a musical instrument would ever take a class where they would lecture you for a year on theory for putting it into practice. And in fact if you did want to learn piano theory or music theory, you still learn to play first. There’s lots of fields like that.


Constantin Stanislavski revolutionized how acting is taught. I learned about him because just for fun I would watch Inside the actor’s studio. Except, that I noticed that a lot of these actors were tremendous at a lot of the skills that leaders valued. Especially the skill of reading others’ emotions, expressing their own emotions, being emotionally aware. And here I’d come from a top 5 business school, having taken a whole bunch of classes in leadership, and many of these actors had dropped out of school. Yet they excelled in something that my environment didn’t even cover, just covered intellectually but didn’t give the skills. I thought “what’s going on here?” Why are these people who are not even in the system, or the system kicked out surpassing people who are at the pinnacle of the system?” – Joshua Spodek


Joshua Spodek is an Adjunct Professor at NYU, leadership coach and workshop leader for Columbia Business School, and Columnist for Inc. He has led seminars in leadership, entrepreneurship, creativity, sales, strategy, and motivation at Columbia, Harvard, Princeton, MIT, the NYU-Stern School of Business, INSEAD (Singapore), NYU-Tisch’s ITP, the New York Academy of Science, and in private corporations. He holds five Ivy-League degrees, including a PhD in Astrophysics and an MBA.


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0:00.0

No one who is learning to play a musical instrument. No one who wants to learn the piano would ever take a class where they would lecture you for a year on theory before putting it into practice.

0:12.0

And in fact, if you did want to learn piano theory or music theory,

0:16.0

you would still learn to play first.

0:18.0

And so there's lots of fields like that.

0:22.0

And so acting for me, you know, if you'd ask for not a mentor, but someone who was like a role model from a historical role model, there's a guy Stenislavsky who in Constantine St Stanislavski who in Constantine Stanislavski who transformed,

0:35.9

who revolutionized how acting is taught.

0:38.5

And I learned about him because I was watching, just for fun I would watch inside the actor studio totally unrelated to my practice

0:47.5

except that I noticed that all these actors on stage were tremendous at a lot of the skills that leaders value, especially the skills

0:57.2

of reading others emotions, expressing your own emotions, being emotionally aware.

1:03.2

And here I'd come from like a top five business school,

1:09.8

having taken a whole bunch of classes and leadership,

1:12.0

and these people often many of these

1:15.9

actors had dropped out of school or gotten kicked out of school and yet they excelled

1:19.0

in something that my environment didn't even cover, I mean just covered intellectually but didn't give the skills and I thought what's going on here?

1:28.0

Why are these people who are not even in the system or who the system kicked out surpassing people who were at the pinnacle of the system.

1:42.4

I'm Srenny Rao and this is the unmistakable Creative Podcast where you get a window

1:46.7

into the stories and insights of the most innovative and creative minds who started

1:50.6

movements, built thriving businesses,

1:52.8

written best-selling books, and created insanely interesting art.

1:55.9

For more, check out our 500 episode archive

1:58.2

at unmistakable creative.com. They're not authors, but they help you shape your financial story. They're not an airline, but they connect global businesses across nearly 160 local markets.

2:16.0

They're not interpreters that they listen to and understand their clients' needs.

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