Greatness takes time. It takes hard work at a colleague here at Focus on the Family who

is telling me about his coaching experience and how he tries to help other coaches and

his players understand that grit is something that really leads to greatness. It's time,

it's consistency, it's being intentional. That's how you get good at something and that's

how you get good at marriage. I'm John Fuller, joined by my Focus colleagues, Aaron and

Greg Smalley. And we're going to hear now from Bill and Pam Ferrell. They have been

on the broadcast a number of times. They're really popular guests. And they discuss a concept

they call a marriage meetup and hear the Aaron now talking about that with Focus President

and Broadcast host Jim Daly.

Well, Pam, welcome back to Focus. It's so good to be here. Yay. I love your enthusiasm.

Yeah, it's fun. Well, let me ask Bill, is that fun? Yeah, and it's genuine. Like she

I told Pam earlier in our marriage, you cannot drink coffee because you came into the

world pre-caffeinated. So it was very true. Pam is loaded with energy. Okay, so early this

morning, I was getting ready for the show and I was reading the crap and I jean sat down

and have a cup of coffee with me. And she was saying, you know, I kind of explained the

concept of marriage meetups and she said, oh, I like that. And I was like, really? Today's

your choice to win me over. But my wife, she loved the idea. She said, we should do this.

Amen. She's my new best friend. She's starting to do the marriage meetup. We're

going to have a meeting. She's advocates today. Yes, absolutely. This is an intervention.

This is an interview. We do have an gym daily. But, you know, frankly, that's what's funny.

I mean, I think typically opposites marry, not always, and I get that. But I think in

this area, jean really connected with the concept of having a weekly marriage meetup

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