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Hey, everybody.

Welcome to episode 367 of the virtual couch.

I am your host, Tony Overbay.

I'm a licensed marriage and family therapist, certified mindful habit coach, writer, speaker, husband, father of four, and creator of the path back, an online pornography recovery program that is helping people turn to a life of amazing,

wonderful things. And let's just stop right there. Turn to a life of amazing, wonderful things.

And we're talking about a pornography recovery program in the same paragraph.

Today we're going to talk a little bit more about pornography and that always sounds funny to say

when I was creating my pornography recovery program with the help of Craig Para who is a leader in

this field of a new way to look at overcoming addiction and impulse control and unhealthy coping

mechanisms I would go shoot at his place and he had a green screen and he had

the professional recording equipment. I remember telling my friends at the time, I would say,

oh, I can't do something on Friday because I'm shooting my porn videos. And I didn't say that to be

funny. I just, it came out and then I would realize somebody was around me that that sure

didn't sound like what I wanted it to sound like. But would realize somebody was around me that that sure didn't sound like

what I wanted it to sound like. But the pathback was something that that we created years ago

and I have since helped a lot of people turn to healthier coping mechanisms and move away

from turning to pornography as a coping mechanism. And today we're going to talk about a really,

it's a new tool. It's an app that is

seeing a lot of success in helping people find more of a sense of community and the efficacy

or how helpful that is in people turning away from unhealthy coping mechanisms. Now, the company

is called Relay and we're going to talk about the Relay app, but it really

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