Okay, you guys, I need a break in right here and tell you about this book.

I don't talk a lot about books, but this one, I know my book club friends out there would

really appreciate me telling you about this one that I have recently dug into.

It is intriguing because I've done these cold cases.

We just solved this Crystal Rogers one and it

kind of reminded me about that case. It's a complete thriller, the ones that you just literally

cannot put down once you start reading. It's called Guess Again. Author is Charlie Donnelly.

You might be familiar with him because he also is the author of 20 years later

and the girl who was taken. It is a fictional cold case, but really truly feels like these

real life ones. Like Crystal Rogers, it's a thriller that threatens to tear down a whole community.

It starts with a teenage girl's

disappearance and 10 years later, a dying detective who needs answers and uncovers more than he

could even imagine. I don't want to tell you a lot more because it's so good. It's available in

hardcover July 29th. And if you love Riley Saker, Alex Finley, or a slow burn mystery

that explodes in the finale while this book is for you and you can get it anywhere you get

your books. Again, it's called Guess Again by Charlie Thornley.

Today's guests spent more than a quarter of a century in federal prison, not for violence,

but for a crime that still carried a staggering sentence. Michael Santos went from being

a young man caught in the drug world to one of the most respected prison consultants in the entire country.

While serving time, he earned degrees, wrote books, and built a blueprint for turning a prison

sentence into a personal comeback. And surely he did. Now through his company, prison professors,

he helps people and families navigate the

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