In last week's episode, you heard the first of a two-part conversation with Deepa Pershafenen,

co-founder of N-formation, an affinity space for women of color corporate leaders who deeply understand

what it feels like to work in environments that are predominantly white and predominantly male.

Deepa suggested some ways that women can advocate for

themselves in workplace situations where they're undervalued, discriminated against, and overlooked.

I also share some tips about how to be your best self when you face inappropriate comments at work.

If you missed it, you might want to go back and take a listen.

Because this week, we focus on how to bring your full self, your best self, to work more regularly.

I'm Madupac and Ola. This is Ted Business. In this portion of Deepa's interview, she talks about the power of truly being yourself at work with one of the women featured in her book entitled The First, The Few, The Only, how women of color can redefine power in corporate America.

Then after the interview, I'll share some research that highlights the many ways we hide aspects of

ourselves at work and how so much of it stems from fear.

But first, a quick break.

The book, it seems like in your writing of it, women of color were really at the center of it,

were really a big part of how you frame this book.

But I'm interested to hear sort of what the response has been from allies and people who are now part of that community. I think a lot of these concepts apply outside of women of color.

I've had a lot of white male leaders reaching out, to be honest with you.

It's still early. The book is just getting into people's hands.

But the ones who have read it have found it shocking and surprising.

They always

thought they were good allies, and so the information in the stories is really helpful to them.

But they're also saying to me, work's not working for them either. And I think that's a really

important concept. So people of my generation and younger white men, you know, want to raise their

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