This is The Labor.

This day, Baltimore with Two Minute Drill, I have an extended version of the Entrepreneurs

Showcase, and let me tell you why because Renee Rodriguez, he blew my mind.

And I meet people all the time.

I hear about people, and very rarely do they live up to what I hear, even from credible

sources.

Everybody has snapshots, they have different experiences with people, and sometimes my friends

oversell other friends, and then I'm disappointed, even though they're great guys.

But this guy has amplified his image in my own perspective, Renee, thank you for joining

me.

It's my pleasure.

I'd say the same exact, you, you showed up, and everything that I heard about you, like

I told you last night, it was refreshing to meet the congruency between what I've heard

and what I've seen.

It takes years, so I'm going to start there and get a little bit raw, because I'm, you

know, someone who illuminates the fact that I wasn't always someone that walked the walk,

right?

I was an overseller, a back-end seller, a liar, manipulator, and cheater at times, unintentionally

mostly with good intentions, but desperate people do bad things.

Has your evolution been similar to mine, did you have to learn that, or in your journey,

because you really seem like a grounded person who walks the walk?

You know, I was talking to somebody about this the other day, and there's a lot of people

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