Hey everybody, welcome to Conversations with John and Lisa and we're just delighted to be

here to strengthen your faith during this time that we've been going through with COVID-19.

In fact, we just got done in our last episode talking about breaking intimidation so apropos

for what people are going through. I think the biggest pandemic that people are facing right now

is not a disease. I think it's fear, Lisa. I think you're right. And so it's really important if you

didn't hear that podcast, listen to it. We're also offering it on our MessengerCourses.com,

which we will tell you about at the end of the show. The other thing I want to mention is that we are

now filming our podcast. So Lisa and I have to look a little bit. So if you're in your car, you actually

can't see that, but it's happening. No more shirtless conversations, no more coming in here with our

bare head. Very, very clear. We have never been shirtless, just for clarity, never. You've never

been shirtless nor a vibe. You've never got seriously dressed up now, babe. We just have to look good

because we're on camera. But anyway, I have a body, I have a body, and I've got shorts on right now.

But anyway, Conversations is a part of a family of podcasts that we do at Messendjourner

National and we've got the Messenger podcast, of course, and then we've got let's talk about it

with sons and daughters. And we've got some new shows we're going to be adding too. So we're

pretty excited about it. But I'm really excited about your new show, but I'm not telling it. I don't

want to take the wind out of the sale. So today we're going to discuss something I believe is so

important and so do our producers. And that is something that I actually mentioned on one of my

posts on Instagram and our producer, Ellis, she said, John, we really need to talk more about this.

And it's about having a right perspective. So you've heard the famous saying is the class

half empty or is it half full that you're always the half full person. Absolutely.

I'm not going to lie. I'm going to have empty. I'm sorry. I'm going to go there. Somebody's got to talk

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