This is the 99% invisible breakdown of the power broker. I'm Roman Mars and I'm

Elliot Kalin. Today we'll be going through chapters 11 through 15. That's the first

section of part 4 the use of power.

With us for this episode is David Sims, the movie critic for The Atlantic,

and also co-host of Blank Check with Griffin and David.

Hey David.

Hello, thank you for having me.

Well, I'm so excited that you're here.

It's so funny because I was like thinking about this show like in the middle of night I wake up.

It's like 3 o'clock in the morning and I was like I bet David

Sims has read the power broker and I wrote you and it like you wrote me about 20

minutes later because you're like an East Coast time and you said I love this book.

I have to assume that David Sims had woken up at the exact same moment

knowing you were about to ask him about the power broker.

Yeah.

Is that right David?

That's of course I have a power broker's spidey sense I guess. We can all we can all find each other on the

astral plane. I I was trying to remember if we had ever discussed it.

No, Roman, but I guess we hadn't.

You just sort of figured my sort of venn diagram of interests would overlap.

You often talk about on your show about movies you

reference reading very long books and being kind of a fan of the very long book I

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