Hello and welcome back to Close Reeds here on the Close to Reads

podcast network. I am David Kern and I am joined for this new book by Heidi White and Tim McIntosh.

Heidi and Tim, welcome back to the show. How's it going?

There's the tense pause waiting for Tim.

We were just teasing that Tim has a way of, there's a dramatic pause whenever Tim gets asked how he's doing.

Which either it's because he's an actor because he's not sure. I'm not sure which one it is.

Tim, how sure are you about how you're feeling right now?

I, David, I feel you about how you're feeling right now?

David, I feel confident about how I feel.

See, I just added one in.

I just added a little dramatic pause in.

I've never been aware that I do that.

But I clearly, I guess I do.

I guess I do that. I do that you have you have gained a droplet of self-knowledge today of self-ac thank you you would think that King Lear would have done it for me

but it clearly did not I missed up unless this drop that higher hydrant of self-knowledge in King Lear.

Well, I mean, this is a very specific piece of knowledge,

so it's not necessarily the case that King Lear would have drawn it out.

Heidi, how about you?

What droplets of self-knowledge have you gained?

I'm waiting for you guys to give me my droplets of self-knowledge for the day.

So if at any point you want to jump in and point something out about me, I'll receive it.

But I'm doing great.

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