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Armstrong & Getty On Demand

The Porcupine Effect

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

iHeartPodcasts

News, Daily News, Society & Culture

4.63.5K Ratings

🗓️ 15 May 2026

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

During their historic meeting, China's President Xi pressed Pre sident Trump over Taiwan.  Military expert Mike Lyons joins Jack to talk about the Xi's strong remark.  Plus, Mike shares the details about his latest op/ed in Real Clear Defense, The Summit Trump Should Schedule After Beijing.

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.3

Guaranteed Human.

0:04.3

So there is a bit of a breaking, big news story around Trump's visit to Beijing as President Xi of China has pushed this Taiwan thing more and harder than I think anybody was expecting.

0:25.2

Like over and over again, each time they sit down to meet or like no matter whatever topic we bring up,

0:32.0

she goes back to Taiwan being a really big deal and very important to him and Taiwan belongs to us and over and over again.

0:42.1

And I think that's interesting.

0:45.1

We're getting more reporting on that.

0:47.9

I'll give you this version from the New York Post before we get to Mike Lyons because I want to ask him about this and a bunch of other stuff.

0:54.4

A very different story began to emerge behind closed doors after President Xi continually

0:59.0

pressed the issue of Taiwan.

1:02.0

The mid-morning sit-down ran long, about 40 minutes over its scheduled time.

1:06.9

Trump was notably quieter at the next stop.

1:09.9

He ignored shouted questions.

1:11.7

The body language of both presidents was noticeably stiffer than it was earlier,

1:16.3

as in there had been some, you know, confrontation,

1:20.6

and they had reached a point of things being uncomfortable around this issue.

1:26.2

And their people are putting out very strong language about it,

1:29.9

and we're reiterating that Taiwan is a free nation, and we support them.

1:36.8

Anyway, it's kind of a surprise in the whole thing.

1:40.8

We'd like to welcome to the show Mike Lines.

1:42.3

We love talking to Mike about anything militarily. You can follow him at MAJ as in major MAJ Mike Lyons on his Twitter feed.

1:50.9

He just had an op-ed in defense.com about AI in our relationship with China, which we'll talk

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