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The Documentary Podcast

The populist curtain: Austria and Italy

The Documentary Podcast

BBC

Society & Culture, Documentary, Personal Journals

4.32.6K Ratings

🗓️ 8 May 2019

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Political scientist Yascha Mounk travels through countries which were on the West of the former Iron Curtain. Graz in Austria is the birthplace of Archduke Franz Ferdinand. Here, populists have been brought into the fold – with the coalition between the centre-right Austrian People's Party and the far-right Freedom Party of Austria running the country. His journey ends in Italy where a peculiar coalition between the Five Star and Lega parties is accused of attacking minorities and immigrants.

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is the populist curtain on the BBC World Service.

0:10.4

I'm the political scientist, Yasha Monk, and I've been following a line across Europe

0:15.6

that Winston Churchill described in 1946.

0:19.2

From Stetti in the Baltic to Trieste in the Adriatic, an iron curtain has descended

0:26.8

across the continent.

0:34.5

I think there may be a new threat to democracy here.

0:37.7

A string of countries along the old iron curtain were populists, a now-en-power.

0:45.1

In Poland and Hungary, I heard accusations that populist parties are attacking independent

0:50.0

institutions, restricting the freedom of a press, and undermining personal freedoms

0:55.3

like the right to protest.

1:00.3

Now for the first time I'm going to cross the iron curtain from the east to the west.

1:04.7

I'm about to enter Austria, I'm on the way to the city of Graz.

1:09.5

In Austria, a coalition between a more establishment centre-right party, V-O-V-P, and a far-right

1:16.3

populist party, V-F-P-E, has been in power for over a year.

1:21.2

And what I want to figure out is whether some of the things that I've seen in Poland and

1:26.4

Hungary could happen in countries like Austria as well, could democracy be on the road even

1:32.6

in western countries.

1:38.2

As our train winds through the Austrian mountains, several passengers tell me this is a concern

1:43.2

they share.

1:44.2

I think it's a difficult situation for Austrian people because I think that we are shifting

1:49.8

slowly into an autocratic system.

1:56.8

Graz is the second largest city in Austria and its streets, filled with trams, are divided

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