The Pope's Big Gay Surprise
Unholier Than Thou
Unholier Than Thou
4.7 • 903 Ratings
🗓️ 30 October 2020
⏱️ 40 minutes
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Summary
This week we’re looking at the church, and more specifically, who’s welcome inside. First, Phill chats with Gerald Posner, a journalist and Vatican expert, about Pope Francis' widely praised but incredibly vague comments surrounding civil unions for gay couples. Then, author and researcher Robert P. Jones joins to talk about Southern Baptists' unholy history with segregationists, and the slow and unsteady march of white Christians towards racial justice.
Follow Gerald Posner's work here
Learn more about Robert P. Jones and the Public Religion Research Institute here
His book is White Too Long: The Legacy of White Supremacy in American Christianity
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| 0:00.0 | From Crooked Media, this isn't holier than now. I'm your host, Philip Picardy. |
| 0:17.0 | Well, everybody, ready or not. Election day is less than one week away. |
| 0:22.0 | Unfortunately, we can't guarantee we'll know who our next |
| 0:24.4 | president is come the evening of November 3rd. What we can say is that, especially |
| 0:29.1 | recently, this election has been one marked by religion. |
| 0:32.6 | And I say religion and not faith, |
| 0:34.4 | because I mean the institution, and not the practice. |
| 0:37.3 | This became evident most recently this week, |
| 0:39.4 | when Republicans rush to confirm Amy Coney Barrett |
| 0:41.6 | to the Supreme Court. They prioritized her appointment |
| 0:44.3 | one condemned by activists all across the spectrum overworking to approve another stimulus |
| 0:49.1 | plan for the nation's struggling working class. What we've explored in many past episodes on this |
| 0:53.5 | podcast is just how much the religious right has been fighting to engineer this |
| 0:56.7 | moment for decades. And in a little bit we'll hear more about the inside of |
| 1:00.5 | conservative Christianity from the author Robert P Jones. Jones, a former |
| 1:04.7 | Southern Baptist, has disavowed his religious upbringing. Now he's working to show |
| 1:08.9 | American Christians across the spectrum of ideology about their own complicity in white supremacy. |
| 1:14.0 | But first I wanted to take a moment to follow up on a story that received widespread |
| 1:18.2 | applause and attention last week. |
| 1:20.0 | Pope Francis has stirred up a longstanding-standing issue inside the Roman Catholic Church how to treat same-sex couples. |
| 1:26.7 | In the forthcoming documentary about his life Francesco, the Pope says on camera, |
| 1:31.3 | homosexual people have a right to be in the family. |
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