Welcome to the commentary magazine Daily Podcast.

I'm John Pudhord. It's the editor of commentary with me is always senior editor

A Greenwald Hy-A. Hi John. You're writer Christine Rosen. Hi Christine. Hi John.

Associate editor Noah Rothman. Hi Noah. Hi John. And joining us today are pal Steve

Kornacki from MSNBC World's greatest election night in Prasario. If you haven't watched Steve

work the board and count the votes and all of that it is one of the great treats of all time.

Steve thanks so much for joining us. Thanks for coming here and I hope we'll have a chance to

work that board a little bit more this year we'll see. Yeah so Steve I wanted to say you know you

you've written your first book on sort of the 90s how the 90s were a precursor to the

to the politics of 2016 and beyond the sort of the gengrich the gengrich Clinton fights and

various other sorts of things and you are a real student of American political history of relatively

recent vintage. Of course one of the reasons that we study political history and we try to get

ourselves averse on previous elections patterns all of that is to have insight into the present so

that we have some analogies for what's going on. It seems to me that for the maybe with the

exception of you know the fall of the Berlin Wall and they end up there there is no analogy

to the present political situation that we are therefore the lessons of it we are flying flying.

Does that strike you as well? Yeah that's that's pretty much how I feel about it of course it

doesn't stop me from spending hours a day kind of ruminating on what might be the actual parallels

and going through the yeah I mean the ones I think the ones that kind of I'm mind are probably

the ones that go through your minds too I mean 9-11 obviously you know as the first one you can think

of and you know some obvious differences were you know just immediately after 9-11 or very quickly

after 9-11 there was a national instinct to just get back on our feet and you know here it's

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