Hello and this is a show for you.

Hello and welcome to Trigonometry.

I'm Francis Foster.

I'm Constantine Kissen.

And this is a show for you if you want honest conversations with fascinating people.

Our brilliant guest today I'm delighted to say is a retired police inspector of 30 years.

Chris Donaldson, welcome to Trigonon.

Thank you very much for having me.

Listen man, it's so great to have you on the show.

We're so excited to talk to you.

There's been so much happening this year to talk about.

But for anyone who doesn't know who you are, just give us a rundown of what has been the journey that you've had

through life you join the police at 18 right and all the way through to now just

tell everybody who are you how are you here what's been your journey

okay yeah so I was born in Islington, grew up in Leighton to Jamaican parents, got two

brothers and a sister, very normal background. My mum's a nurse, was a nurse, and my dad's worked at Fords.

Nothing extraordinary. At the age of 18, I was in the sixth film. I had no idea what I wanted to do a guy

down my rugby club Paul Farrell he suggested that I should consider police so I I'd never thought about it before.

I didn't grow up with any aspirations to be a police officer.

Never before that conversation.

And it actually took to all the boxes.

What I like a lot of times in my life,

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