Hello everyone. Welcome to the podcast of the Lodz Cetus. Today is Thursday the 5th of June 2025.

And I'm your host, Stelios, and I'm joined by Harry and Stephen.

Hello.

And we're going to discuss a Danish politician explaining democracy to a confused journalist by the BBC,

Zuma reading comprehension and Trump banning Muslims again.

Right. So there's a BBC journalist called Simon Reeve who is uploading a series of episodes called Scandinavia with Simon Reeve. And towards the end of episode three, he is talking to a Muslim migrant as well as a Thomas Monberg, a politician who is from the coalition government

that is ruling Denmark.

And he is representing two clashing perspectives over migration.

But what is really interesting with this, first of all, I'm really amazed that they kept it.

Because he's literally getting destroyed. There's just no way of putting about it more diplomatically. He's

literally getting wrecked. So I'm surprised that they left it. But also, the way that he frames

things in several clips from this video and from this episode is simultaneously tragic,

but sometimes it's very funny as well.

So I want to show you some parts of it and discuss the ideas as well as the framing.

Let's start with the first one.

Yes, let's play it.

So he's looking to some Danish people there, says it seems well, but there are problems.

But it would be wrong to think there are no problems in Denmark.

All this social cohesion means outsiders can sometimes feel unwelcome.

If you don't conform here, it can feel uncomfortable.

That's the first one.

Simple as.

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