Welcome to the commentary magazine podcast today is Monday.

October 29th. I'm John Pudhord. It's the editor of commentary with me as always.

So see there. No, we're Rothman. I know. Hi John. Senior editor Abe Greenwald.

Hi, Abe. Hi John. And senior writer, Sorob Amari. Hi, Sorob. Hi, John.

Obviously a terrible day, terrible weekend, terrible week. We sit here in the

aftermath of the massacre at the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh 11

dead six injured four cops injured. Robert Bowers charged with 29 separate

crimes. Apparently told the SWAT officer who arrested him that all the Jews

needed to die. And I have many thoughts about this, but one of you guys Abe, you

want to lay out your sense of things? Well, I was just as I was saying right before

the mics went on that when they released the names of the victims yesterday, I

had sort of I was reading them through and I had started attempting to

console myself with the idea that they were there were many of them that were

significantly older than than I would have thought that people in their 80s and

well into their 90s. And then but I immediately then found myself sort of saddened in

another way struck by thinking about a different kind of fragility in these

victims and what they lived through only to die at that point in that most awful

way. I do remember telling my wife because we had heard that this was a a

brisk that I didn't want to look up the list because I was I had this horror

this was early in the hours where they had said 11 or 10 dead but they hadn't

released dead confirmed who they were and I was horrified to think that God

forbid something had happened to the baby. So we're we're obviously going to go

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