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slash UK slash AI for people. Welcome to the History Extra podcast, fascinating historical conversations from the makers of BBC History magazine.

In 1620, a group of English men and women boarded the Mayflower and embarked on a journey that would change the course of American history.

But what drove these people to quit their homeland?

How did the colonists survive that first harsh winter?

And why have they subsequently attained such an iconic status?

Here in conversation with Spencer Mizzin,

Nick Bunker addresses the most pressing questions about the Pilgrim Fathers.

Nick, thank you very much joining us today.

I wondered if you could start by giving us an introduction to the Pilgrim Fathers.

Who exactly were they?

And why did they feel that they had to quit England for a new life in the Americas? Well, hello. And thank you for having me. Well, these days, of course,

we don't really use the term pilgrim fathers for obvious reasons. We're a bit less patriarchal

than we used to be. And we just call them the Pilgrims.

And by the Pilgrims, what we mean is a core group of 137 English settlers who crossed the Atlantic in two groups in 1620 and 1621 and went on to found what came to be known as the Plymouth Colony,

based on the coast of Massachusetts in the town, still known as Plymouth,

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