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The Astrology Podcast

The Picatrix: A Grimoire of Astrological Magic

The Astrology Podcast

Chris Brennan

Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture, Philosophy, Spirituality

4.71.7K Ratings

🗓️ 24 January 2020

⏱️ 151 minutes

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Summary

Episode 239 of the podcast features an interview with Christopher Warnock about a book known as the Picatrix, which is a 10th century text on astrological magic. This is a sweeping two and a half hour discussion where we talk about the history and origins of the text, as well as its contents. We also get into a lot of specific details surrounding the practice of astrological magic. Christopher was involved in publishing one of the first modern translations of the text in 2009 with John Michael Greer: The Complete Picatrix I thought it would be fitting to have him on the show to talk about the Picatrix, especially given the recent surge in the popularity of astrological magic in recent years, which was discussed a recent episode with Austin Coppock on the relationship between astrology and magic. You can find out more information about Christopher Warnock's work on his website: RenaissanceAstrology.com This episode is available in both audio and video versions below. Picatrix Show Notes Here are some of the show notes compiled by Brennan before the interview: Text known as the Picatrix Origina Arabicl title: Ghayat al-hakim: The Goal of the Wise / The Aim of the Sage 10th century text on magic and astrology Became very influential in the later Medieval and Renaissance magical traditions Focuses a lot on electional astrology and rules for making talismans. History behind the text. Probably written in the 10th century Latest authors cited or used in it lived in 9th century. E.g. Abu Ma’shar Author is currently thought to be Maslama al-Qurtubi (d. 964 CE) "It has become widely accepted that it was penned by Maslama al-Qurtubi as identified by Maribel Fierro and confirmed by Godefroid de Callatay." Liana Saif, The Arabic Influences on Early Modern Occult Philosophy, p. 250. "a man of charms and talismans" Al-Andalus. Iberian Peninsula The text is a compilation of a bunch of earlier lore that he found in different texts. Author claims to have consulted 224 books Wrote it over 6 years. Text was originally written in Arabic Translated into Spanish at the court of Alphonso X of Castile 1256-1258 Spanish version then translated into Latin Latin translation omits some stuff, inserts other passages. The famous talking head thing is missing from the Arabic version. Latin Version influenced later European tradition Interestingly was never put into a printed edition. Just manuscripts. Influenced later authors like Agrippa, Ficino, and Lilly. History of modern editions and translations. A few scholars around the Warburg Institute worked on it in the first half of the 20th century. Produced a critical edition of the Arabic Later Pingree published a critical edition of the Latin in the 80s. The first English translation was the Ouroboros Press version Translated from the Arabic, but criticized for accuracy. Warnock and Greer translation from the Latin in 2009 New academic translation of the Latin published recently by Dan Attrell and David Porreca: Picatrix: A Medieval Treatise on Astral Magic. Upcoming Arabic translation by Liana Saif Tweeted her progress @MaslamaQ Contents of the Text Some astrological magic Some magic potions and spells Different philosophical passages: Hermetic, Neoplatonic, and Aristotelianism Electional astrology for magical purposes Different electional principles focused on or used in the Picatrix Concept of talismans, amulets, and images Using images to capture or represent something in magical workings. Interesting conceptual stuff surrounding some of the electional rules. The origins of much of the electional material among the Sabians of Harran Thabit ibn Qurra (836-901 CE) as a source for the Picatrix: Astral High Magic: De Imaginibus of Thabit Ibn Qurra Attempting to define magic. Actualizing the will through hidden or occult forces as a major theme. “Whatever you desire shall come about.” 1, 5: 1 (Attrell and Porreca translation) “Whatever he seeks from the lords with whom he interacts, he will obtain.” 1, 5: 7. “what you seek will happen.” 1, 5: 29. “They requested their desires and fulfilled them.” 1, 5: 48. Text demonstrates both positive and negative, constructive and destructive uses. The early ones it introduces are relatively benign, like making two people fall in love with each other, but relatively early in book 1, 5: 14 it gives an image for destroying an enemy. Christopher has an interesting admonition at one point in Thabit Discourages people from using magic for bad things. At the same time thinks it is important not to censor the tradition. Important to understand the principles of constructive and destructive elections Using images to capture or represent something in magical workings. Desire to root the electional chart in a natal or horary chart. There is this whole theme that it keeps coming back to about the agent needing to believe or have faith in the operation, because only then will their will be brought to fruition. At the beginning of book 2 he outlines a philosophy where astrology is the root of all magic. “Thus, they believed that the root of magic is the motion of the planets.” 2, 1: 1. Repeatedly swears the reader to secrecy. Not the best introduction to elections. Kind of need to know astrology and electional already. Occasional digressions to introduce concepts. Using knowledge of someone’s natal chart in a ritual. Watch the Video Version of This Episode Here is the video version of our discussion about the Picatrix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkTjOonTMpM - Transcript A full transcript of this episode is available: Episode 239 transcript Listen to the Audio Version of This Episode You can either play the audio version of this episode of the podcast directly from the website or download it as an MP3 to your device by using the buttons below:

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0:00.0

Hi, my name is Chris Brennan, and you're listening to the astrology podcast. In this episode I'm talking with Christopher Warnock about the Picatrix, which is a 10th century grimoire of astrological magic.

0:12.8

Hey, thanks for joining me today.

0:15.2

Hey, it's great to be here, Chris.

0:16.8

Yeah, this is funny because you actually are one of my earliest guests that appear, this is your second appearance on the podcast, but it was so long ago,

0:26.3

it was way back in episode 16, which we recorded and released back in like, I don't even know, like 2013 or 2014 or something crazy like that.

0:37.0

Wow.

0:38.0

Well, I have to say it's a great honor to be here.

0:41.0

I mean, this the the premier astrology

0:43.1

podcast no no question about it and plus you know it you're way up there I mean I

0:49.6

look at your the I mean Hellenistic astrology you're the guy so it's like yeah you wrote a lovely review of my book when it came out a few years ago so thanks for that but it's an honor to talk to you today because I've been wanting to do a full episode on the

1:05.2

Picatrix for a while and I felt like it was finally time. I did an interesting discussion with

1:10.3

Austin about astrology and magic last month.

1:14.0

So I'm ready to like delve into this topic and I finally,

1:18.0

I'd read and skimmed through parts of the Picatrix before,

1:21.0

but I've finally now sat down and done a detailed read-through of the entire thing, so I'm excited to talk about it, and I thought, who better to talk about it than you, who's been one of the primary proponents of sort of reviving that work and putting some of the precepts into practice over the course of the

1:37.6

past couple of decades.

1:39.6

Yeah, you know, it's interesting, it's like, because I think one of the things I really enjoy

1:44.0

about being an astrologer is that you have to have this theoretical knowledge but

1:49.2

then at the same time you got to put it to practice and they sort of they definitely inform each other you

1:54.4

know what I mean it's like we're not just having a theoretical academic

1:57.6

discussion here as useful as that is and also not just doing practical stuff we

2:01.5

have to do both you know so to be a scholarly

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