The Physics of Life's Emergence
The Michael Shermer Show
Michael Shermer
4.3 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 13 August 2024
⏱️ 106 minutes
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Summary
Life as No One Knows It by Sara Imari Walker tackles the challenging question of defining life, a problem as complex as understanding consciousness or matter's existence. Walker argues that current definitions are inadequate for comprehending life's origins or potential extraterrestrial forms. She proposes that solving this puzzle requires revolutionary thinking and an experimentally verifiable theory. This is crucial for both creating life in laboratories and searching for it on other planets. Walker suggests a new paradigm for understanding physics and life, exploring the work of innovative scientists who are reframing fundamental questions about the universe. The book concludes with a bold theory for identifying and classifying life, applicable beyond Earth. It's a rigorous yet accessible work that celebrates life's mystery while demonstrating physics' explanatory power.
Sara Imari Walker is an astrobiologist and theoretical physicist focused on the origin and discovery of life. She's a professor at Arizona State University and deputy director of the Beyond Center. Walker is also affiliated with the Berggruen Institute and Santa Fe Institute. Her award-winning research on life's origins has gained international recognition and media attention.
Shermer and Walker explore diverse topics including defining life, self, and organisms; philosophical concepts like materialism and idealism; origins of life research; assembly theory; consciousness; free will; symbiogenesis; exoplanet biosignatures; alien civilizations; and the intersection of extraterrestrial search with religion. They discuss paradigm shifts in understanding life's origins, potential alien characteristics, and the Kardashev scale.
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to the Michael Sherman Show. The Michael Sherber Show Life in the universe today with Dr. Sarah Amari Walker, |
| 0:29.8 | Sarah Walker, an astrobiologist andicists interested in the origin of life and discovery an alien life on other worlds. |
| 0:38.0 | She is deputy director of the Beyond Center for Fundamental Concepts in Science, and a professor in the School of Earth and |
| 0:45.0 | Space Exploration, Arizona State University. She's also a fellow of the Berguin Institute, |
| 0:51.2 | I always mispronounce his name, and a member of the external faculty of the Santa Fe Institute where they study complexity and chaos theory and all that good stuff. |
| 0:59.0 | She's a recipient of the Stanley L. Miller Early Career Award for her research on the origin of life. |
| 1:05.0 | And our research team at ASU is internationally regarded as being among the leading labs |
| 1:11.0 | aiming at building a fundamental theory for understanding what life is. |
| 1:15.0 | Her research has been featured in Scientific American, Quantum magazine, and a variety of other international outlets. |
| 1:20.0 | Here's the new book. |
| 1:22.0 | Life as No one knows it rather than life as we know it. |
| 1:27.0 | The physics of life's emergence. |
| 1:29.0 | So beautiful, it'll be out August 6th. |
| 1:32.0 | We'll release this probably on that date that the book comes out. |
| 1:34.7 | Sarah, nice to see you. Thanks for coming on. |
| 1:36.7 | Nice to see you too, Michael. It's really fun. |
| 1:38.3 | I should tell people how we met. |
| 1:39.5 | So, because it was an interesting coincidence. |
| 1:42.3 | I had back-to-back conferences this |
| 1:43.8 | spring one at the dialogue conference which is a little bit like Ted |
| 1:48.7 | without Ted Talks and it's not as well known but it was in Tucson and and then like two weeks later I met |
| 1:56.0 | invited his conference hosted by Peter Teal in Florence Italy with a bunch of |
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