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The Philadelphia gun-runners who supplied the IRA

History Extra podcast

Immediate Media

History

4.34.5K Ratings

🗓️ 26 March 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

In the 1970s, as the Troubles divided Northern Ireland, hundreds of armalite guns were sent to the IRA from across the Atlantic. Reporter Ali Watkins follows the smuggling operations of a ragtag group of Irish American gunrunners from Philadelphia in her new book The Next One is for You. She spoke to Ellie Cawthorne about their impact on the conflict over the ocean. (Ad) Ali Watkins is the author of The Next One Is for You: A True Story of Guns, Country, and the IRA's Secret American Army (Little Brown, 2025). Buy it now from Amazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Next-One-You-Country-American/dp/0316538272/?tag=bbchistory045-21&ascsubtag=historyextra-social-histboty. The HistoryExtra podcast is produced by the team behind BBC History Magazine. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:04.5

Welcome to the History Extra podcast, fascinating historical conversations from the makers of BBC History Magazine.

1:13.8

In the 1970s, Northern Ireland was divided by the troubles.

1:19.4

But the conflict stretched far beyond its city's streets.

1:24.1

All the way across the Atlantic, a group of Philadelphia gunrunners were keeping the IRA supplied

1:30.2

by smuggling hundreds of Armolite guns and other weapons.

1:34.9

Reporter Ali Watkins recovers this story in her book The Next One Is for You,

1:40.1

and I spoke to her to find out more.

1:42.7

So your new book, The Next One Is For You, looks at how a group of

1:47.6

Philadelphia Gunrunners, known as the Philadelphia Five, kept the IRA supplied with arms at the height

1:54.2

of the troubles. So before we go any further, Ali, can you give us some context? What was the

1:59.9

situation in Northern Ireland, and in Belfast in

2:03.0

particular in the mid-1970s? So when we're talking about this period leading into this moment

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