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The following podcast contains explicit language. Hello and welcome to the Petro edition of Slate Money, your guide to the Business and Finance News of the Week.

I'm Felix Salmon of Fusion, joined as ever by Anna Shimansky and Jordan Weisman.

Hello, people.

Hey everybody.

And, okay, this is the super special Petro edition not just because we're going to be talking about Petro's

but because Dave Raleigh is here

Hello Dave Raleigh is my favorite person but because Dave Rollie is here.

Hello.

Dave Rollie is my favorite person in the world.

Dave Rollie, introduce yourself.

Well, I'm co-head of Global Fixed Income at Loomis Sales.

That sounds really boring, but you're not actually a boring person.

We do bonds. We buy bonds, we sell bonds, we think about bonds. Well, it can be, but on the other hand, a lot more people do equity, so we thought it was a

sparser place to set up shop.

You, okay, so you cover the entire world, you invest, when you say global fixed income you really mean global

fixed income we probably we probably have I think it's I forget it's either 15 or

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