This is the Potter's cast.

A podcast home for potters everywhere.

It's a community of potters dedicated to grow their business.

We're picking up where the art degree ends.

I'm your host, Paul Blaze.

And just like that, episode number 1,239 has just started.

Welcome to the show.

We've got Karen Gabriel coming on the show today.

And she makes work that I've just not seen before.

And it's really a fascinating approach to making.

And I have just fallen in love with her work.

I've titled this episode, The Person of Abstract Ceramics, because she just makes these

really killer pieces of work that, well, I guess the way you describe them is

abstract ceramics. And it's, yeah, it's very moving. I'm really in love with their work.

So let's jump into this conversation I had with Karen Gabriel right after this word from our

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Karen Gabriel, welcome to the Potter's cast.

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